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Old 11-02-2007, 04:14 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

I'm assuming that he will tend to bet overpairs and check behind TP, which I think is realistic vs this sort of player. So when our equity is horrible we get away and when it's good we have a shot at a river v-bet vs hands that tend to fold the turn with non-zero frequency.

edit: by near-optimally I mean we can play nearly as if we can see his cards.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

ahh now im with you. good point.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

I just bet, don't have a good enough read of his turn bet range to be CRing or c/fing comfortably here.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

check/fold easy
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

i would bet and hope to stack a T or a 9. You could bet smaller to induce a shove from a draw.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

If he were 25/7 instead of 25/17 I would slow down
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

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His range on the flop seems to me any 10, QJ, overpairs and sets.

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Board: Td 9c 3s 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.303% 55.33% 00.97% 1826 32.00 { Th9h }
Hand 1: 43.697% 42.73% 00.97% 1410 32.00 { 99+, 33, ATs, KTs, QTs, QJs, JTs, ATo, KTo, QTo, QJo, JTo }

and if you add 78 your 61%

<font color="blue">So v-bet</font>

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yeah, but I dont think he's gonna pay me with J10 or Q10 very often.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

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I think he will check behind most of the hands that you beat if he's passive. You let yourself get bluffed by QJ but such is life. cf.

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Old 11-02-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

if hes folding qt and jt then yeah just c/f but if not keep betting like 2/3 pot or something
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Whee two pairs... [censored].

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His range on the flop seems to me any 10, QJ, overpairs and sets.

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Board: Td 9c 3s 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.303% 55.33% 00.97% 1826 32.00 { Th9h }
Hand 1: 43.697% 42.73% 00.97% 1410 32.00 { 99+, 33, ATs, KTs, QTs, QJs, JTs, ATo, KTo, QTo, QJo, JTo }

and if you add 78 your 61%

<font color="blue">So v-bet</font>

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yeah, but I dont think he's gonna pay me with J10 or Q10 very often.

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really? even w/ your image and making 33 even less likely for you after the turn? I saw some dude call a shove w/ K high no draw in your video.
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