10 NL QQ tuff spot

[apple11]

I dont have pt but if i was to guess UTG would have been around 70 8 very fishy so when this came up I was just baffled was this fine how I played it?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.00
BB: $4.33
UTG: $14.85
Hero (BTN): $10.86

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.90</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.60</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.70

Flop: ($9.27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $10.25</font>, Hero calls all-in for $6.26
Uncalled bet of $3.99 returned to UTG

Turn: ($21.79) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($21.79) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.79 ($1.05 Rake)

[Scrubbo]

70/8 and raising to 38bb pf?
i'd say more often than not you're behind his range so no need to gambool here. if he's really that fishy just wait for a better spot it won't be hard to stack him.

[Poseidonne]

Screams aces or kings to me here with your approximate stats, at best you're probably flipping, especially after that flop open push, he does it because he expects you to call, he's begging for it.

[Ramana]

extra large pfr=AA KK
you're too deep, QQ are very vulnerable, no need to gamble, you'll find better spots

[Prodigy54321]

if you haven't seen him make huge raises like this preflop, it's tough...not sure whether we should just fold or call, but I don't like your 3bet..but I am very uncomforatble raising half my stack like that...

if you have seen him make a few giant preflop raises like this, I'd push...

as played, I would call

[Kevan0]

I think this is a clear fold pf.. 9 out of 10 times this means AA or KK.. You can however maybe flatcall his raise, so you can get his whole stack in when you do flop your Q...

[Kvetchie]

as most have said, 70/8, easy fold even with that hand. At most you'd want to see the flop but if you dont hit a set with Q high board, easy fold.

[Prodigy54321]

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I think this is a clear fold pf.. 9 out of 10 times this means AA or KK.. You can however maybe flatcall his raise, so you can get his whole stack in when you do flop your Q...

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if it is true that this is AA or KK 9 out of 10 times, we should definitely fold...we can't call 1/5 of our stack to only play if we hit a set

but even against a random villain that we have no info on, this is not AA or KK 9 out of 10 times...but it's high enough that I don't think we should be happy to get it in here unless we have a read that he has made these types of bets before...either knowing that he didn't have top hands like AA or KK..or even just that he's done it enough times that he coulnd't have had those hands all those times...

looking back at this again and considering random opponents..I would say that they may be crazy enough that they do this with a wide enough range enough of the time to make this a push preflop..

I think it's close though

but as I said, it's either push or fold preflop IMO

I'd preobably stick with the criteria in my first post for making that decision