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Old 11-04-2007, 03:25 PM
bkholdem bkholdem is offline
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Is it OK if I bring a few 10 year olds into your back yard and start having an orgy with them?

[/ QUOTE ] About as ok as if you did it somewhere else. A little less ok than if you did it in your own back yard I suppose. Still, where you are has little bearing on what I think of this action. Anyway, no, of course I don't think it's ok. But if it's justified (to me) that you use violence to stop this, it's not because it was in your back yard.

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Or maybe enter your back yard and start posting signs about joining the Nazi party?

[/ QUOTE ] No, not ok. Among other things because I don't like nazis. Still doesn't mean I can shoot you.

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Where are all these AC advocates of murdering people for tresspassing then?
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:29 PM
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Where are all these AC advocates of murdering people for tresspassing then?

[/ QUOTE ] Sorry. Exchange "shoot" with any form of violence you prefer.
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
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Where are all these AC advocates of murdering people for tresspassing then?

[/ QUOTE ] Sorry. Exchange "shoot" with any form of violence you prefer.

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I'm just curious, but if some stranger comes into your house and stands over you at night while you are sleeping, do you think it is reasonable or justified to eject him by force if he refuses to leave willingly?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:06 PM
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The boogeymen you people create for me are always totally insane. Why the hell is he doing that?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:27 PM
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The boogeymen you people create for me are always totally insane. Why the hell is he doing that?

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What does it matter? He hasn't touched you or done anything threatening. He simply doesn't accept your claim that this is your house or your property, and he is actively demonstrating his belief by standing there. You've asked him to leave but he refuses. Is the use of force (a.k.a. violence) by you or the police justified in order to eject him?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:33 PM
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What does it matter? He hasn't touched you or done anything threatening. He simply doesn't accept your claim that this is your house or your property, and he is actively demonstrating his belief by standing there. You've asked him to leave but he refuses. Is the use of force (a.k.a. violence) by you or the police justified in order to eject him?

[/ QUOTE ] So he's doing it because he know I will hate it and to provoke me? I don't think I can be blamed for using violence to evict him in that case. If he's in my house because it's cold outside, or because he likes my bed better than his own, that's different. These things are not necessarily ok, but the appropriate reaction is not violence either.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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What does it matter? He hasn't touched you or done anything threatening. He simply doesn't accept your claim that this is your house or your property, and he is actively demonstrating his belief by standing there. You've asked him to leave but he refuses. Is the use of force (a.k.a. violence) by you or the police justified in order to eject him?

[/ QUOTE ] So he's doing it because he know I will hate it and to provoke me? I don't think I can be blamed for using violence to evict him in that case. If he's in my house because it's cold outside, or because he likes my bed better than his own, that's different. These things are not necessarily ok, but the appropriate reaction is not violence either.

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*bkholdem makes note to self to consider snuggling up next to wtfsvi in his bed on one cold night this winter.

Better yet, bkholdem makes note to self to bring several homeless to wtfsvi's house (wheather he is home or not) and to help them set up camp there. Of course if his house sucks worse than the shelter I won't use force to make them go in.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:44 PM
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Where are all these AC advocates of murdering people for tresspassing then?

[/ QUOTE ] Sorry. Exchange "shoot" with any form of violence you prefer.

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So what form of violence do you advocate if I start to post Nazi signs in your front yard and campaigning for new recruits?

Or what form of violence do you advocate if me and some others start to have freaky monkey sex in your backyard and set up camp there?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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Where are all these AC advocates of murdering people for tresspassing then?

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So what form of violence do you advocate if I start to post Nazi signs in your front yard and campaigning for new recruits?

Or what form of violence do you advocate if me and some others start to have freaky monkey sex in your backyard and set up camp there?

[/ QUOTE ] No violence.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:57 PM
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Where are all these AC advocates of murdering people for tresspassing then?

[/ QUOTE ] Sorry. Exchange "shoot" with any form of violence you prefer.

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Or what form of violence do you advocate if me and some others start to have freaky monkey sex in your backyard and set up camp there?

[/ QUOTE ] No violence.

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So then you or no one else on your behalf will do anything to me or anyone else (other than counter protest or repeatedly request we leave and continue to try to reason with us to leave) if we turn your front yard into a recruiting grounds for the Nazi party?
So what form of violence do you advocate if I start to post Nazi signs in your front yard and campaigning for new recruits?

What about if I marched back and forth on your front lawn with a picture of your daughter on a sign and her phone number and the sign said "easy lay, call any timee". You will ask me to leave but if I refuse there will never be anyone that puts their hands on me on your bahalf?

I'm also curious, if a neighbor assaults me will you intervene to protect me from this violence with respect to the nazi advertizing and easy sex from daughter campaigns on your front yard?
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