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Old 11-27-2007, 09:17 PM
Fiasco Fiasco is offline
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Default $16 pair + NFD vs all in @ low blinds

Do I have to lay this down or does my larger than average stack allow me to gamble here given some dead money and my robust draw?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t790)
UTG+1 (t1540)
MP1 (t1740)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1430)
CO (t1710)
Hero (t2105)
SB (t1470)
BB (t1245)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, CO calls t30, Hero calls t30, SB calls t15, BB checks

Flop: (t180) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](6 players)
SB bets t180, BB calls t180, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises to t1680 (All-in), Hero ?
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: $16 pair + NFD vs all in @ low blinds

Don't ever call here. You would be risking more than 3/4 of your healthy stack to draw to maybe 30% wins getting like 1.3:1.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: $16 pair + NFD vs all in @ low blinds

Even if villain is really strong (like straight, TPTK, bottom set or KdQd), we have like 40%. Add upp the overlay and the gooftard factor and I think this is a push.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: $16 pair + NFD vs all in @ low blinds

One guy bets the pot, another calls, and another guy pushes. I don't think this is the spot to draw to 9 outs.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:44 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $16 pair + NFD vs all in @ low blinds

I don't think it matters too much really, with only 30 invested folding isn't a big deal. If you had some chips invested postflop I'd want to call probably.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: $16 pair + NFD vs all in @ low blinds

How is what we invested really all that relevant?
I mean, I'm very unsure here, and probably should be folding these spots more often than I do - however, I feel that the pot+call ahead of us is a good thing.
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