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#101
10-30-2007, 09:39 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
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Man, last week the fanbois were trying to defend this scared money... It's good to see that they're (almost) not even trying anymore in this thread, and just hoping it blows over quickly. [/ QUOTE ] the hater regulars havent shown up. feraca, jdesab... FWIW i didnt see the james woods hands, and i wouldnt flame him either... just the funniest thing to me is the people who talk about him being starstruck...since theres not like theres any pros that play on full tilt 
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#102
10-30-2007, 09:56 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
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[ QUOTE ] Man, last week the fanbois were trying to defend this scared money... It's good to see that they're (almost) not even trying anymore in this thread, and just hoping it blows over quickly. [/ QUOTE ] the hater regulars havent shown up. feraca, jdesab... FWIW i didnt see the james woods hands, and i wouldnt flame him either... just the funniest thing to me is the people who talk about him being starstruck...since theres not like theres any pros that play on full tilt [/ QUOTE ] yea hes playin on tv when he plays FT
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#103
10-30-2007, 10:03 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
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I can totally understand why he got kicked from the 500k lineup. Although it could be funny to see him donking it up. Ah well.... [/ QUOTE ] Don't the big names have to be told the lineup of fish before agreeing to play? If they all thought sweaty phil was a fish why wouldn't they complain?
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#104
10-30-2007, 10:18 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
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The constant whining/complaining after losing a hand, in which you were never in the lead in the first place, is really annoying. You know, it goes check/check on 5th street, dood turns over hand and other dood goes "Ahh, you were dead to that card. Unreal, unbelievable. Blah blah blah". It's so freeking annoying to me because anybody can say whatever the hell they want without turning over the cards. This annoys me so much I've called people out on it live, yelling at them to table the hand that was "so far ahead of me it's sick" before 5th street. 99.9% of the time they act like they didn't hear me and turbomuck. That's right loser, stfu. [/ QUOTE ]I also find this annoying, even better is when donks do it online and don't know that I can check the hand history... In Sammy's case, he was down a few hundred and they're probably going to let him say whatever he wants.
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#105
10-30-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
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[ QUOTE ] Man, last week the fanbois were trying to defend this scared money... It's good to see that they're (almost) not even trying anymore in this thread, and just hoping it blows over quickly. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW i didnt see the james woods hands, and i wouldnt flame him either... just the funniest thing to me is the people who talk about him being starstruck...since theres not like theres any pros that play on full tilt [/ QUOTE ] eugh, but you ignore everything Jman did wrong as if it was a mistake but James Woods and anyone else would get absolutely ripped to shreds. I don't know why you pretend to be stupid when you clearly aren;t but you have to know when to give up. Last week I agreed with some of your points but come on, Jman looked uncomfortable AGAIN and thats 3 weeks out of 3. Even the arseholes who play in my local casino know not to muck before showdown THAT is ABC poker, you have to agree he embarassed himself with that howler. I'm getting fed up of seeing people like you who dismiss every counter argument so easily.
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#106
10-30-2007, 10:53 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
I've defended Jamie Gold in the past. IMO he played the big stack at wsop unorthodoxally but well. But i mean does he not even think about the hands he's played. Jesus, the amount of value bets he's missed is astonishing, surely he's caught on that people call him down light. I also think he's been hit by the deck a bit this series, not nut hands but good hands that beat other people's second best hands. He's missed so much value imo.
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#107
10-30-2007, 11:07 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
I've spent the last couple years during play at my local B&M casino explaining how much tougher the play is online as opposed to live and generally how much better online players are.
Jman just gave the livers some serious ammo. His performance was dreadful.
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#108
10-30-2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
sammy farha is great for this show, although i imagine he's a difficult person to be around. next week is going to be sick sick sick.
gold is incredible at insta-checking. the best.
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#109
10-30-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How do you figure that he owes 40k and 8k? I could understand your saying that he owes 10k and 2k. Did you think that his deal was 4:1 the other way--that is, that he had to pay 40k to buy 10k worth of insurance? Please explain. [/ QUOTE ] You are correct Sir, he owes 10k and 2k. My mistake. [/ QUOTE ] he for sure either owes them or cheated them, one of the two. I picked up on this right away and then quickly figured the math in my head real quick to make sure he the price was figured without consideration for split pots like I thought it was. Im surprised the people on the show that are smarter than me didnt do the same. [/ QUOTE ] I was really shocked by this. It seems clear to me that Hellmuth should pay up on the insurance. But for all I've criticised Phil in the past, I've never believed that he would actually welsh on a bet. Given the overall confusion during the negotiations, it was more likely a horrible mistake, or maybe there was even something said that we didn't hear to clarify the situation.
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#110
10-30-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)
The whole insurance thing is completely ridiculous. If you can't afford the swings at a certain level, you should not be asking for insurance. When you ask for insurance and you have the dominant hand with one card to go, it is impossible to come off as anything but scared money and a complete nit. I could see it perhaps every once in awhile (ok, no I couldn't), but asking for insurance on relatively small pots like the last one and not saving it for the $300k pots just looks so tacky and cheap.
What *really* pisses me off more than anything however is the complete lack of dignity you show the losing player, in this case Eli. It sucks hardcore enough that you're all in with your last dime, you're behind BADLY, and some guy is prolonging the agony by asking for insurance around the table and then prolonging the agony even FURTHER by then discussing odds and blah blah blah. Eli is a class act, but he let this go on way too long. If the hand was a race ok, but when you have somebody bent out of shape so badly like that, get the damned hand over with and have some compassion. I could see it if Eli was a jerk, but he's showing nothing but class on this show year in and year out and he deserves better. I love watching Phil on TV, but this really pissed me off last night. There was so much confusion however, that I don't think he intentionally ripped anyone off. There is too much at stake here considering this show is televised nationally, that Phil would sell his soul for $12k. At least, I hope he wouldn't.
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