TP+FD, call/3 bet all in 3 way

[sharpie]

Don't really know what I'm doing, but is this bad? I figure I might get both of them to fold, if both call I'm getting the right price unless a higher flush out there. If only CO calls I'm not much of an underdog with ~14 outs.

The stats on MP are mostly from limit, probably awhile ago, he's 36/18/2.2/180 but take that with a grain of salt. Had only 15 hands on SB and he's tight so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($50.35)
CO ($29.95)
Button ($46.40)
SB ($31)
Hero ($55.05)
UTG ($49.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $10.5</font>, MP folds, SB calls $8.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $53.05</font>

[Sweir]

I would fold pf. On the flop I would probably raise SBs lead, I wouldn't 3bet here because I don't think you have much FE and you could easily be up against a better FD and a better TP so I don't really like playing this fast.

[FreddyT87]

with this read i put UTG on an overpair. i'm not very comfortable with SB though because he donks the flop, then calls a raise with still hero behind to act. this looks like a strong hand, possibly a set. we have not much fold equity in this spot so i'd summarize that it's not a great play because we are very likely down to 9 outs.

[Peter Harris]

definitely fold pf.

I actually think the call-push isn't so bad if we look at the action - UTG raised PF and raised the flop big - this may well be an overpair (possibly the only combination of JJ left), it could be A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB flat calling along is a little troublesome but it could be as little as Jx or 45, to suspect the FD there is a bit MUBSish.


Board: Jc 3d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.628% 40.13% 00.50% 100375 1248.00 { Jd5d }
Hand 1: 45.489% 45.49% 00.00% 113781 0.00 { JJ+, AdKd, AdQd }
Hand 2: 13.884% 13.38% 00.50% 33479 1248.00 { QJs, J9s+, 54s, QJo }


where UTG doesn't have the FD or the lone set, SB doesn't have a FD either:

Board: Jc 3d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.401% 43.00% 00.41% 95511 900.00 { Jd5d }
Hand 1: 45.347% 45.35% 00.00% 100734 0.00 { QQ+ }
Hand 2: 11.251% 10.85% 00.41% 24093 900.00 { QJs, J9s+, 54s, QJo }

I think with the money in the pot already, the likelihood that UTG is playing an overpair fast rather than an FD and the fact that SB may well have a smaller FD, an OESD or TPGK (A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Jx is another possibility for SB i forgot), means that you not only have FE but quite possibly strong equity with the money in there already.


EDIT: nice to see another old SSSHer here.