New to 2+2

SomthingOrOther · #1 04-21-2007, 06:07 PM

hello everyone,

I'm gona keep my fist post short and sweet but I'd really appreciate any help I can get.

First is: Whats an average winrate for small stakes online holdem? What should your graph look like?

(yes i have PT and PAHUD)

Second: Im showing a loss with KQs and KQo I've tryed analyzing as best I can and I just cant see what I'm doing wrong.

Normally I'll raise if im first in or I have good position. Somtimes I'll limp if theres 4+ people in the pot behind me. I dont really get sticky to the hand im looking for top pair or a fl or straight draw. Any sugestion on low limit play of this hand? I seem to be having similar trouble with A10s and A10o.

fretelöo · #2 04-21-2007, 06:10 PM

Hi,

your questions are too general to answer. Your graph should go up. If it does that, it's a good graph. Otherwise it's a mean, ugly and bad graph. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Post a few hands about KQ.

Zeldark · #3 04-21-2007, 06:13 PM

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First is: Whats an average winrate for small stakes online holdem?

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My PT tells me that the average of all the players I've seen is about -1.84 BB/100

SomthingOrOther · #4 04-21-2007, 06:18 PM

heres the graph im pretty new still under %K hands.

ill look for KQ hands.

ty

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (14.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 caps, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (14.60 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (17.60 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB raises, MP2 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 22.60 BB

ill get 1 or 2 more

SomthingOrOther · #5 04-21-2007, 06:20 PM

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 raises, CO folds, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13 BB

SomthingOrOther · #6 04-21-2007, 06:21 PM

Also this hand killed me not KQ but any suggestions?

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, 1 fold, MP3 (poster) calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (28 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls $0.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: 34.50 BB

fretelöo · #7 04-21-2007, 06:23 PM

STOP: Read the faq!

SomthingOrOther · #8 04-21-2007, 06:26 PM

I know the FAQ but honestly i dont remember much info about these hands, i just want anyone to point out mistakes if they see them...

sorry...

fretelöo · #9 04-21-2007, 06:31 PM

First: Fold pf, fold river. Flop is probably a call to the cap but you should realize that you don't win unimproved anymore. Turn is prob. a call for the 2% chance that you river a K and hold up but the river is a def. fold.

Second: Pf is ok - you might even raise. Flop donk is ok as well, don't 3bet. You don't have equity for a 3bet. Don't donk turn, c/call. Folding river is the correct move.

Third: Any suggestions? Sure. Fold pf. c/r turn, c/r river. Sucks if he has QQ. That happens if you cold-call two with a baby pair from the BB.

Generally: WFT @ all this donking?

SomthingOrOther · #10 04-21-2007, 06:34 PM

im sorry what does it mean to "flop donk?