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Old 11-19-2007, 03:50 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: QQ UTG First Hand (16 Turbo)

Some of you seem to not realize that when you have a good hand you want to see calls not folds. If you shove then they pretty much always fold, calling with a very tight range of hands that sucks for us. Do yourself a favor and let these idiots pay you off.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: QQ UTG First Hand (16 Turbo)

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Old 11-19-2007, 06:36 AM
Rek Rek is offline
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Default Re: QQ UTG First Hand (16 Turbo)

Bingo, you post for opinions but then keep trying to justify your play. I see all ins 1st hand and it just amazes me. Any of the following will happen:

1. Everybody folds and a premium hand like QQ wins just the blinds
2. You get called by AA or KK and are dominated. AK may call and you are now a coinflip.
3. You get called by Ax (retarded call) and will still lose a good percentage of time when an A falls on the board.
4. You get called by a smaller pair (retarded call again) and have them dominated but even they will beat you say 20% of the time.

Even if you double up you are by no means certain of getting in the money whilst you are dead if called and beaten.

You should play premium hands strongly but not like a maniac. I think players that play as you have suggested just prefer an all in because they never want their QQ beaten by Ax if they put in a “normal” raise. Don’t be afraid to play it right and also be prepared to lay it down if you think you are beat – a flop with A or K is a danger but good players can get away from losing all their chips with QQ.
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