5/1 OOP Floating with Gutty on New Site

[bozzer]

are we thinking he won't think we're calling weak because we'll never call with a draw we'll always be shoving this flop?

or is this just a disgusting flop to float on because we never have anything when we call here?

[BombayBadboy]

On this flop I'm never just calling with JJ+ either..I shove.

So if I continue with this T9s, I would shove.

[Michaelson]

Hmm, in a vacuum I think shoving is far superior here, but I don't mind the float for balance. You just need to make sure this is sometimes an overpair and sometimes a set, as well.

[bozzer]

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Hmm, in a vacuum I think shoving is far superior here, but I don't mind the float for balance. You just need to make sure this is sometimes an overpair and sometimes a set, as well.

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so it sounds like we have to play quite a few hands sub-optimally for balance. what hands do you play this way to maximise value?

[Michaelson]

Well, once he calls the ambitious bluff shove on the river in this hand, sets and overpairs.

[Michaelson]

Mind you, I shove the turn, personally.

[Nick Royale]

Given your preflop play you must push the flop.

[ValarMorghulis]

I think a push is much much better than this. He may double barrell bluff and you've just thrown money away. He may hit his overcard. I can't see many advantages to be honest.

And I think you should push this flop once you've called preflop.

[Nick Royale]

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Hmm, in a vacuum I think shoving is far superior here, but I don't mind the float for balance. You just need to make sure this is sometimes an overpair and sometimes a set, as well.

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Balancing what? I just don't play any hand like this, and I don't see any need to.

[Michaelson]

Well, it wouldn't be usual for me to do this, but against certain opponents who 3-bet light and get aggro postflop I might call behind with a set on this board hoping he puts me on a draw and shoves a blank turn. I don't know, though, this board would kind of suck to play that way with a big hand, but generally speaking at least I like to have a lot of lines available to me in big pots, and I can imagine some people could work floating into their game pretty effectively here.