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Old 11-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Panthro Panthro is offline
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Pretty sure betting this flop 3 ways is spew

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I don't see it that way. When MP checks he's so often giving up b/c this ain't the greatest board to cbet into two opponents w/ air.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:42 PM
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I likely have the best hand with very little chance to improve.

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Lol yeah I'm behind. I'm fairly sure of that.

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Old 11-07-2007, 12:43 PM
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I likely have the best hand with very little chance to improve.

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Lol yeah I'm behind. I'm fairly sure of that.

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When he c/rs I'm behind I meant, when it's checked to me I'm prob ahead
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:45 PM
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betting this flop into two people is pretty silly
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Where I know that he knows that I know.. blah blah blah

Sklansky recommends cr a set in a multiway pot. How do you take a set out of his range?
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:47 PM
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Yeah sorry. I didnt realise first one was in reference to betting flop.

I really dont think he will c/r the flop with junk very often at all. I just cannot work out if he does it with hands that call a push. Checking the flop is not condusive to building a pot that wants to play for stacks. C/R is obv super strong normally, so again maybe he doesnt want to get it all in.

That said, you say yoursrelf you normally bet when checked to, so he might know this. Also he might have something like black ace or kings, see that flop 3-handed isnt great, but when BB folds he knows he is good, or even jsust wanted to c/r because it's the play that should shut down the action the best.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:06 PM
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i check flop also, but here if you think he is FOS why not call. shoving is too spewey for my tastes
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:07 PM
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also i would be happy to shove with any draw. your 2 out draw is way too weak. i would rather do it with overs or a gutshot or something
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:12 PM
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calling is clearly awful.

are we hoping to check/check the turns and river and hope our hand holds up?

If OP thinks villian is FOS shoving is way better than calling. I think I still prefer folding to the flop c/r tho.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:23 PM
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I don't really see a TAG player making a move in this spot. He either has top set or AK suited. Betting the flop is not horrible, but you are most likely getting called by one of the two with this texture board. So if you are willing to double barrel a non scary turn, then bet, but i would probably just check flop. For the all in bet, i hate it, you have 20 invested in the pot, have no clue where you are at, so why ship 200 more with no legit read?
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