3bet Pot - Two Pair - Easy Fold?

[ICMoney]

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The folds to 3bet of 25%, how does that compare to standard/optimal fold to 3bet figures? (I dont use RTHUD (yet))

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Like I just mentioned, I didn't have this stat when I was actually in the hand.

But if he's pfr only 4%, these are only good hands and I wouldn't expect him to fold any of those to a 3b.

I think the fold to 3b is usually in the 35 - 70% range.

It usually varies by position.
Maybe 25% from blinds. 35% from EP.
45% from MP. 60% from LP.

[BadSeed]

I don't think checking the turn is good against an unknown, who may be drawing. Normally in RRd pot the tptk is a hand to shove.

[munkey]

I fold preflop -if he has a 4% PFR then what's his calling of a 3bet range QQ+ ?

AS played fold river vs TT+, AQ you're boned and splititng with AK but losing to AQ-AT (not that I think he has AT).

i think he has maybe KK here based on river action but this could so easily be tt,jj,aa,qq that your boned by almsot all of his 3bet range.


However if he's unknown I just push turn too many ghey river cards -someone will need to stove this but we lose to tt, jj , AA but AQ and AK call and may be a stubborn QQ and this doesn't include broadway crap jto and other stuff that unknowns call with.

[ICMoney]

Obv that king is a horrible card for me.

What if the river is a blank and he shoves and:

You have the stats
You are readless

[munkey]

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Obv that king is a horrible card for me.

What is the river is a blank and he shoves?

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That's why I shove turn we gain the FE and apply pressure -I wouldn't be in this spot so it's hard to say what I would do. If you 3bet preflop you have to get AI turn given flop texture or you fold preflop.

[traz]

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Obv that king is a horrible card for me.

What if the river is a blank and he shoves and:

You have the stats
You are readless

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snap

[ICMoney]

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I don't think checking the turn is good against an unknown, who may be drawing. Normally in RRd pot the tptk is a hand to shove.

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He pfr from the blind. I would think this is tt+ more often than clubs or KJ, 89.

KK, QQ, etc are drawing thin and are prob dumping to a turn shove.

There are plenty of legit hands that have us murdered.

[ICMoney]

<font color="blue">Is shoving turn good? Is it the same thing as me having 89? </font>



If he shoves on turn, I'm not too upset to get stacked here.

But I think my hand is much more likely to be good if he shoves the turn than if he calls my shove.

The pot is about 100bb on the turn so if I shove and he folds, it's no big deal I guess.


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Obv that king is a horrible card for me.

What is the river is a blank and he shoves?

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That's why I shove turn we gain the FE and apply pressure -I wouldn't be in this spot so it's hard to say what I would do. If you 3bet preflop you have to get AI turn given flop texture or you fold preflop.

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[AZplaya]

top 4% is 99+, AQ+. After he calls our flop bet I think it's safe to eliminate 99.


Board: Ah Jc Th

equity
Hand 0: 39.22% TT+,{ AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 60.771% { AdKc }

shove turn ftw.