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Old 10-13-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default $2-5 NL Live Bottom Set Facing Two All Ins

I'm chilling with a friend at Bellagio and he raises two limpers with 66 to $30. 3 callers so there's ~100 in the pot.

Flop: 678 rainbow
First caller from the blinds, who is tight but not overly nitty preflop but is very careful postflop checks. My friend bets $120 and the next guy to act, who is pretty ridiculously nitty, shoves in for $150 more.

The player from the blind thinks for a bit and cold shoves all in for $470.

At this point my friend is positive that they both have nut hands. The first guy never has worse than 99 to push that flop and the second guy never has worse than two pair, and he probably folds two pair given this action.

So there's 960 in the pot and it's $370 to my friend to call. What do you guys think? I know what I think but I told him I'd post it anyway to get feedback because he didn't do the right thing IMO.

Also, please do more than just post "you're getting 3:1ish with a set!" and break down some hand ranges and pokerstove it for me. I think it'll be really close given how tight both of the villains' ranges are, but just curious.

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Old 10-13-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: $2-5 NL Live Bottom Set Facing Two All Ins

more interested in knowing why he overbet the flop vs tight players
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: $2-5 NL Live Bottom Set Facing Two All Ins

i dont understand what position everybody is in preflop. how many at the table? this action makes v little sense to me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: $2-5 NL Live Bottom Set Facing Two All Ins

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i dont understand what position everybody is in preflop. how many at the table? this action makes v little sense to me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

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sorry, was posting while watching TV. the two limpers folded and there were only 2 callers, not 3. this is full ring, my friend opened 4th to act, the guy on his left called and the small blind called.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: $2-5 NL Live Bottom Set Facing Two All Ins

Hand 0: 24.440% 23.79% 00.65% 1497540 41118.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 37.780% 33.00% 04.78% 2077806 300723.00 { 99-77, T9s, 87s, 54s, T9o, 87o, 54o }
Hand 2: 37.780% 33.00% 04.78% 2077806 300723.00 { 99-77, T9s, 87s, 54s, T9o, 87o, 54o }

If these are the correct ranges then it's probably a call but he shouldn't be thrilled about it, no ? Plus - the nit on the blinds is less probable to play a SC being OOP so his range is more weighted towards a set (?).
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: $2-5 NL Live Bottom Set Facing Two All Ins

Fold here. Nit in the blinds has a range heavily skewed towards 88/77, and T9s/T9o are very, very common live play hands in multiway pots. If your friend is positive they both have nut hands, and the $470 shover can never have worse then 2 pair, 66 cannot be in great shape here.

FWIW I also don't understand leading the flop for $120 into what is apparently around $100 when your opponents are tight.
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