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10-10-2007, 02:30 PM
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I don\'t know what i\'m doing, but i think it\'s more +EV than calling
standard 2p2 tag you know the type
basically my intuition tells me he's never bluffing here, but 99% of standard 2p2 also won't have a huge hand PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP ($313.25) Button ($254) <font color="#C00000">SB ($210.60)</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($206)</font> UTG ($61.45) Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $6. Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $13</font>, Hero calls $13. Turn: ($42) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. River: ($42) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $185 
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#2
10-10-2007, 02:33 PM
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Re: I don\'t know what i\'m doing, but i think it\'s more +EV than calling
his line is weird, like AJ or whatever i think. i think he leads trips always on the turn as well as stuff like JT. is your shove for value or bluff? i would guess bluff (you'd need some meta for him to call with like...Kx).
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#3
10-10-2007, 02:35 PM
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Re: I don\'t know what i\'m doing, but i think it\'s more +EV than calling
I don't get it, is this for value/ avoid a split? He doesn't have a king and you split with every ace. I guess this is fine, he probably folds Ax and you are almost never behind.
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10-10-2007, 02:37 PM
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Re: I don\'t know what i\'m doing, but i think it\'s more +EV than callin
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I don't get it, is this for value/ avoid a split? He doesn't have a king and you split with every ace. I guess this is fine, he probably folds Ax and you are almost never behind. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly, to move him off a chop. If he's hardly ever bluffing and hardly ever has us beat, I imagine he only have to fold a small portion of A/x's to be +EV.
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10-10-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: I don\'t know what i\'m doing, but i think it\'s more +EV than callin
I don't know why he can't have monster here sometimes, going for turn checkraise etc. Ace feels even stranger since there are too many draws out there for turn check IMO. I don't think they would ever fold an ace against me though, rather call with Qx or underpair. wtf are you representing, 55, busted flushdraw and very strangely played JT?
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#10
10-10-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: I don\'t know what i\'m doing, but i think it\'s more +EV than calling
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his line is weird, like AJ or whatever i think. i think he leads trips always on the turn as well as stuff like JT. is your shove for value or bluff? i would guess bluff (you'd need some meta for him to call with like...Kx). [/ QUOTE ] What, besides JT, is "stuff like JT?" Agree that he rarely has a big hand, but your hand doesn't look like anything either.. why would you check back a K when you can often get two streets of value from his ace and will rarely get anything from 88 or air (he's not paying off a bet with a small pair and he's usually giving up with air when he checks the turn). Not hard to call with an A in his spot, but people will fold and since AQ=Ax and a K or better is rare, I think the freeroll shove is fine.
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