Stars $109- Flop flush draw from SB deep in tourney

tedtodd · #1 10-01-2007, 05:39 PM

How would you play it? Lead out? C/R? Call?

I folded....too weak?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t50918)
UTG (t41959)
UTG+1 (t53589)
MP1 (t18602)
MP2 (t10877)
CO (t29934)
Button (t14548)
rvrmonkey (t38111)

Preflop: rvrmonkey is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t1600, 2 folds, CO calls t1600, 1 fold, rvrmonkey completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t6650) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
rvrmonkey checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t3200, CO folds, rvrmonkey?

mlagoo · #2 10-01-2007, 05:43 PM

i would check and call this bet.

g-p · #3 10-01-2007, 05:59 PM

lead flop, c/r flop, c/c flop lead turn, c/c flop check turn but bet some scary cards

c/f seems like the worst

tedtodd · #4 10-01-2007, 06:03 PM

I'm a hair over 20bb. A lot of moves here are committing. Much easier spot deeper, I prob c/r allin if I'm <10bb.

Folding and finding a better spot I thought would be the right decision.

What's the villain making this move with? Any 10? A bigger flush draw?

g-p · #5 10-01-2007, 06:04 PM

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What's the villain making this move with? Any 10? A bigger flush draw?

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how can we know if you dont give any info on him

ASPoker8 · #6 10-01-2007, 06:04 PM

c/c flop

lead some turns, c/c others, c/f some maaaaaybe

tedtodd · #7 10-01-2007, 06:11 PM

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What's the villain making this move with? Any 10? A bigger flush draw?

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how can we know if you dont give any info on him

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New table, and he's an unknown. Doesn't appear to be a blatant steal with the CO still left to act. But I also wonder what he's limping there. Small pairs, SC's, Axs...or possibly monsters? Suppose it would be tought to narrow his range. But I don't think he's folding anything he bets here, and my flush draw is behind all other flush draws.

Kala1928 · #8 10-01-2007, 08:02 PM

Did you check thinking "Im gonna check-fold my flush draw".
Or did you check without thinking - "I check I just have a flush draw".
Calling the flop bet with the odds you're getting and with your remaining stack is alright. If you had a lot less then folding would actually be better, say you have 15k and have to risk ~3.5k to see the turn.

tedtodd · #9 10-01-2007, 08:18 PM

I really wanted to call, but playing a flush draw OOP sucks. Do I lead out on turn if I miss- or c/f....

Calling puts me in such a bad spot.

I feel like either c/r allin on flop, or folding to conserve chips are the only ways to play this.

edit: it's an easy call if i'm much deeper.

tedtodd · #10 10-01-2007, 08:32 PM

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Did you check thinking "Im gonna check-fold my flush draw".
Or did you check without thinking - "I check I just have a flush draw".
Calling the flop bet with the odds you're getting and with your remaining stack is alright. If you had a lot less then folding would actually be better, say you have 15k and have to risk ~3.5k to see the turn.

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My thoughts are all scattered in this thread. But my thinking when I checked, was to c/r if there were any sketchy bets or if it folded to CO and he bet.