2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE

[aislephive]

I make it $375 on the turn to represent a draw that is pricing itself in to call a shove.

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this works as well - the point being you want to rep a draw (by raising large)

[rand]

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jesus stop going on about a 'turn shove' we have more options that min-raise or shove! i'd probably make a 2.5x or 3x raise.

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1. stick up your ass?
2. i understand that but i dont think that those options are good... a raise somewhere in between looks so much stronger than either of the other two

[obiedman]

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jesus stop going on about a 'turn shove' we have more options that min-raise or shove! i'd probably make a 2.5x or 3x raise.

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1. stick up your ass?
2. i understand that but i dont think that those options are good... a raise somewhere in between looks so much stronger than either of the other two

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i disagree, but if you really think htis way then shove. just don't minraise

[AAismyfriend]

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[rand]

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i didnt think of this as a reason and i like it but i think i would be more inclined to shove a draw there but its a good idea

[Parlay Slow]

I liked the minraise

[gordo16]

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This is about right. Definitely not your garbage min-raise that ruins your river action. Especially if this guy does in fact call his stack off weak, a raise to about 400 reeks of a flopped draw that wants to show strength on the turn but get it in there regardless, hence the pricing in. If your read on villain is AKish, then I think that a big raise on the turn gets the money in there... definitely not the min-raise though...

[tannenj]

i also think making it $375 or so is a sweet line, mostly because this is a good size to raise to with air. if you have air, it's tough to get him off his hand with a minraise, and i think $375 has just about as much fold equity as shoving while saving a couple hundred bucks on the bluff.

with that said, clearly there's merit to shoving the turn, too (it probably reps a draw the best, and metagame-wise this is probably how you'd play something like 85ss if you didn't just call the turn with it).

[jono]

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I liked the minraise

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I didn't