Preflop overbet with AK

[jcm4ccc]

Sometimes with AK (and AK only) I will make a large push preflop when I feel like a reraise will make the pot so big that the flop will be hard to play if it misses me. That's what I did in the following hand. Stupid? Just make a standard reraise of about 4k?



Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament $30+$3
70 people left, pays top 30, average stack 9k
Blinds: t200/t400
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t8778
UTG+1: t6990
UTG+2: t5743
MP1: t3716
MP2: t10168
MP3: t17488
CO: t7963
Hero: t15570
SB: t17663
BB: t7113

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to t800</font>, CO calls t800 <font color="#aaaaaa">(pot was t1400)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t15570</font>

[0evg0]

Yes, you have 40+xbb. This is pretty retarded. Reraise to 2500-3500 and just play poker postflop.

[Foucault]

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(and AK only)

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This is a big part of the problem.

Make it 2500 and leave yourself room to maneuver post-flop.

[betgo]

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Yes, you have 40+xbb. This is pretty retarded. Reraise to 2500-3500 and just play poker postflop.

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OP has position. Just reraise and play the hand. I don't like the push partly because it looks like AK. I would probably reraise to 2500. I don't like even making a reraise larger than 2500 here, because it looks like AK or some other raising hand trying to take down the pot. I want the raiser to be concerned I have a big pair.

[JJGD83]

I agree...that this is too many chips to be doing this with. But, people will often put you on a small PP when you overbet the pot. If he had something like 7-8000 chips I don't hate this move. You will often get called by AQ AJ and be in a dominating position.

[betgo]

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I agree...that this is too many chips to be doing this with. But, people will often put you on a small PP when you overbet the pot. If he had something like 7-8000 chips I don't hate this move. You will often get called by AQ AJ and be in a dominating position.

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I agree it is OK is 7-8K, but I probably wouldn't play it that way.

I think people will put you on AK and AQ/AJ will not call.

It looks like AK or maybe a mid pp, so JJ+ and AK will probably call. No hand that you are ahead of is likely to call.

[Foucault]

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I agree...that this is too many chips to be doing this with. But, people will often put you on a small PP when you overbet the pot. If he had something like 7-8000 chips I don't hate this move. You will often get called by AQ AJ and be in a dominating position.

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I agree it is OK is 7-8K, but I probably wouldn't play it that way.

I think people will put you on AK and AQ/AJ will not call.

It looks like AK or maybe a mid pp, so JJ+ and AK will probably call. No hand that you are ahead of is likely to call.

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Have you ever played a Party $30?

[betgo]

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I agree...that this is too many chips to be doing this with. But, people will often put you on a small PP when you overbet the pot. If he had something like 7-8000 chips I don't hate this move. You will often get called by AQ AJ and be in a dominating position.

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I agree it is OK is 7-8K, but I probably wouldn't play it that way.

I think people will put you on AK and AQ/AJ will not call.

It looks like AK or maybe a mid pp, so JJ+ and AK will probably call. No hand that you are ahead of is likely to call.

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Have you ever played a Party $30?

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If you think the play is loose enough that there is a good chance you will be called by high cards, then I actually like this push.

Against good players, you will only be called as a 5-4, 2-1, or 12-1 dog and you are not getting the pot odds to make up for it with the overbet. Plus by making a small reraise you can often take down the pot with position representing an overpair if you don't take it down preflop.

[mlagoo]

jcm,

i wouldn't even like this if you were SB/BB, but i HATE it on the button. as someone said, raise to 3500 or so and play some poker! you've got a strong hand and great position.

i think ~8.5K is the biggest stack i'd do this with.

[rockin]

As everyone else has pretty much stated, a push is little too much. 3x villain's bet is sufficient. Since you have position here, there is nothing wrong with just calling here either. When I am OOP is when I prefer to put in the big reraise.