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Old 05-25-2006, 01:31 AM
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its a great book, you just arent good at cards
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:03 AM
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That may not be the fault of the book. In things like this, you are always going to get more out of a good book after reading it the first time and then getting some playing time under your belt. Some things just can't be explained in a book if you don't have the foundation of knowledge and experience to understand them.

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Maybe. I am not an experienced NL player. Still, there are other poker books I have felt like were clearer and better organized.
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Old 05-25-2006, 08:09 AM
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The reason for the somewhat disjointed structure of the book was that each author separately wrote an essay for most topics and then reviewed each other's, after which both were put in without combining them. Mr. Reuben mentions this in his latest book Poker 24/7.
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:40 AM
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Still, there are other poker books I have felt like were clearer and better organized.

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This is true, without a doubt. Lots of the topics are difficult mainly due to an unnnecessarily dense writing style. I think you can ding the book for that. However, this book rewards careful study.

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Old 05-25-2006, 03:01 PM
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The book had sections on various forms of poker which I don't play and I found myself skipping over them.

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Well yeah, if you read the introductory stuff and then skip over the meat, most poker books aren't that good.

In my opinion, this is one of the best poker books every written, easily top five.
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Old 05-27-2006, 06:34 AM
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It should also be said that it is much more an PLO book than NLH and I think the title in misleading in what respect.

Pot limit and No Limit Holdem by Reuben and Ciaffone [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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I just wanted to point out that the book is called Pot-Limit and No-Limit Poker (not just hold'em). The title isn't misleading. Also, FWIW, I think this book is one of the best cash game books out there.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:15 PM
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OT i just ordered this book along with improve your poker.
i play NLHE mostly. having read this thread i am half expecting to be disappointed with PL&NLP although i'll wait and read before i judge. for those disappointed with PL&NLP and read IYP were you also disappointed with IYP?
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:18 PM
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Improve Your Poker is a very good book. As is No Limit and Pot Limit Poker, the OP's opinion nothwithstanding.

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Old 05-28-2006, 06:44 PM
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I think IYP is very good. So far it has been more useful to me than PLNLP.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:40 PM
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I am about to start reading this for a poker book club from another online forum I am in, this is our first read. I hope its better then some of these reviews I just hope its as good as I have heard.
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