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Old 11-24-2007, 06:28 AM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default ($27) KQ flops top two in SB, how is this line?

UTG/CO's had been aggressive (28/16/3.0), Button's stats were 20/8/1.0 and BB's stats 22/17/4.0. How is this line? Obv I was going for a C-R on the flop and with two players with aggressive postflop stats I thought that one of them would bet, but is this flop too dangerous to do so?

On the turn, I have to go broke, right? Turn lead was a misclick, meant to bet 600.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button (t3335)
Hero (t3680)
BB (t2810)
UTG (t3675)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K.
UTG calls t200, Button calls t200, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t800) Q, T, K <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t800) T <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t600</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3480</font>
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:53 AM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops top two in SB, how is this line?

I would probably lead the flop.
Just because I have two of the three cards on the flop which reduces the change they have one and will bet.
Also if they have a T they might not bet.
Also they are not super lagg.
This might be a bit 'result orientated'.
I would bet 700-800 on the flop, just because of the two draws and 3 opponents.
As played: on the turn I probably get it in as well, although I am not too excited about it.
He could also have a random Q or K or draw.

Edit: Oh, and I lead the flop because of the draw.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:34 AM
stevi3p stevi3p is offline
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops top two in SB, how is this line?

Yes, I definitely bet the flop - it's very drawy. I'm not keen on trying to check-raise because the board is so scary that people are less likely to bluff.

Turn is tough; I agree with betting out. After the min-raise I don't like shoving. I can't think of any worse hand that will call; so I prefer calling the min-riase to shoving. So I probably just call the raise and, assuming the river doesn't help my hand, fold to a big bet on the river, calling any small ones. But it's a tough one.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:33 PM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops top two in SB, how is this line?

I would bet full pot on the flop, maybe even 1000, and get it in on the flop/shove a safe turn card if called (not an ace or nine but would shove J vs one player).
As played you are probably beat but I think you are getting the odds to either spike or get a free sd sometimes when he doesn't have it to call his raise and fold to most river bets. If he had minraised a real bet I would fold, they almost always have it. Shove is basically lighting two buyins on fire.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops top two in SB, how is this line?

i agree this is not good. you probably should bet on the flop and if you didnt lead bigger on the turn. as played call his bet and fold to a decent river bet unimproved.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:56 PM
J-P J-P is offline
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops top two in SB, how is this line?

Definitely lead the flop. Any 9, J, A, or T really sucks if they hit on the turn. Prolly lead 600ish and then push safe turns.
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