JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here

[Noam Chomsky]

I like b/f here.

[ejay]

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I like b/f here.

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for all of you saying c/f i dont get it. Even uncreative tag is betting AT here and even they will bluff sometimes. How strong does our hand look? you cont bet the flop and checked the turn, why wouldnt he value bet AT/KT here?

[brad2002tj]

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I like b/f here.

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for all of you saying c/f i dont get it. Even uncreative tag is betting AT here and even they will bluff sometimes. How strong does our hand look? you cont bet the flop and checked the turn, why wouldnt he value bet AT/KT here?

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x2. I think you are ahead here enough to c/call depending on bet size.

[bones]

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Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

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What is an uncreative tag flatting the flop with on that board with 2 left to act? T9, 89, 87?

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J8.

C/c is horrid on this river.

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An uncreative tag calls a utg raise with J8? I dunno who villain is, but I'm having a really hard time putting him on any sort of reasonable hand other than pair +9, and even then checking back turn seems odd.

[mmctrab]

It's a strange line from villain but I think you're up against 77, 88,or 1010, and possibly 66 if he thinks you're c-betting with air.

[HoldEmNewby]

were you looking to c/f the turn?
I think river is a c/f for reasons already stated

[dragonystic]

this line looks good to me.

[tufat23]

i can see firing $12 on the river with the intention of b/f. c/f or 22/f look fine, c/c is blah, i would not c/c for more than $22 i guess