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Old 08-18-2007, 06:30 AM
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Hey everyone, not sure if this belongs here but I saw some trip questions so i figured it would be alright.

Anyways, I'm looking to take my first trip to vegas in october and am really looking forward to it. I had a few questions for those of you who have been there.

1) Should I book hotel+flight package? I am traveling with a friend and was looking at a 2 week stay. The price came out to about 1700 a piece w/ flight(500$) for the hotel at mandalay bay, suite room(14 nights). Is this a good deal or can I find a better hotel/rate?*Should include, 1 room, 14 nights (C$184.38 avg/night) C$2,581.33/2= 1200$ each

2) I'm a 2/4 online player, so I was wondering how many buyins would be sufficient? My main point of going is not to grind poker but moreover to have a good time, but I still want to log lots of hours of poker because I hear there are a lot of soft games. Are buyins usually maxed(100 bb) or are they uncapped? What would be a decent bankroll to bring if I'm looking to play 8-10 days/6 hrs a day, assuming I'm a winning player?

3) What are the prices like at clubs? I've seen some pretty high end stuff, rain/ghost bar/pure/tao, are these places impossible to get into w/o connections?

4) How much $ would you suggest to bring if I'm looking to have a good vegas experience(not including poker BR) for 14 days?

5)Finally, is it worth it to stay in vegas for 14 days or should I cut my trip short?

Thanks for your suggestions
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:16 PM
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1. For the deal you mentioned, it sounds about right. Mandalay Bay is definitely towards the top end of hotels (one of my favorites), although for a first timer and for an extended stay, you might want something a tad more centrally located (not that Mandalay is THAT much out of the way, but there is nothing south of it). I love the Mandalay Bay and the pool area is definitely tops....

3. Clubs are getting more expensive because there are more people wanting to go. $40 per is about as high as I've seen. During the week, it shouldn't be that hard to get into especially if you arrive somewhat early. Lines can get crazy at a few of the hottest clubs around (Pure, Tao, Tryst), but even the lines at the Palms have NOT been that crazy. Be sure to check out the Foundation Room (House of Blues, atop of the Mandalay Bay. It requires a paid membership, but it's open to the public on Mondays).

4-5. Wow, 14 days in Vegas? You must be out of your mind...or if you try, you might not have one after 5-6 days! You must have unbelievable discipline to stay there that long at 1 time and still plan to gamble. I suppose if it was strictly poker, you can do ok. But it sounds like you want to have fun and perhaps also do other forms of gambling? Plus it's your first time, so things could get overwhelming... You don't want to blow your wad in the first 2-3 days like a lot of people would. If you're there for that long, you might as well take the relaxing route, maybe rent a car for a few days and check out other places within driving distance: Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon, and/or LA.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:22 PM
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Unless you are an extreme degenerate and/or some stripper/hooker gets her hooks into you, you will probably be sick of Vegas after a week.

That being said, although that's a very good price for the room, I would probably want to experience more than one hotel for my first trip. I might try 4 or 5 days at The Hotel, 5 days at the Wynn, and last but certainly least, a few days at the Bellagio. I personally dislike the Bellagio(a lot), but some people like it, and people will ask you about it when you go home. It will cost you more money this way, but if you can stomach 6 hours of poker in one casino, the poker rate at Bell and Wynn should make the difference small. I would do 5 days at The Hotel, 5 at the Wynn, and the remaining at Bellagio.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:25 PM
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3 days in Vegas is like 2 weeks anywhere else. 2 weeks in Vegas? I don't know many people who can do it. I'm not kidding.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:53 AM
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well I stuck out about a week in AC at the borgata, I figure vegas I'll be golfing and doing some other things. Will I be guaranteed a poker room rate in October? I wanted to stay at the Wynn, but the hotel at mandalay seemed a better bang for my buck. But I may end up doing the 5/5/bellagio. Sounds pretty good. Any Idea on how many buyins I should bring? When I went to AC I ran out of money on like the 4th day(blackjack degen) and I brought about 5k there. Any help would be appreciated. Assuming I dont lose 3k at blackjack and only play poker, say I go for 10 days, would 8K be enough for going out/strippers/food/poker?
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Old 08-19-2007, 05:03 AM
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As far as I know, none of the hotels that offer poker rates restrict what months they offer them. The best way to find out is to call them.

Will 8 grand last two weeks? Who knows? It depends on how well you run. I've had runs in Vegas where 8 grand would be gone playing 1/2 NL in 5 days.
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Old 08-19-2007, 05:58 AM
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Really? Are the rules for cashing in like the Borgata(cash in however much the player with the most $ on the table has)? Or are there tables with 100 BB maxes as well?

I guess poker room rates are based on availability, so my question is from your experience are there usually poker rooms available? I'll probably call to find out. Can poker room rates only be reserved once you've cleared the # of hours required?

Seems to me I'll go with a 10 day trip as I don't plan on going back to vegas again for a while since I live in canada. Thanks for all your help, appreciate it.
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Old 08-19-2007, 09:50 AM
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Just to give you some background on my perspective, I live in Vegas and play poker professionally.
1. You will likely save money if you book your flight and hotel separately. Package deals almost always cost more. Plus if you can get the poker room rate it'll save you a lot. IMO the nicest rooms in town for the poker room rate is at the Venetian. They're all suites and almost all of them have been renovated. You get a lot more space for the money. I have stayed at the Bellagio and Wynn as well and I prefer the Venetian. The rates are $169. You have to put in 6 hrs for each night you want at that rate. If you lower your standards there are much cheaper hotels you can stay at.

2. I don't know what 2-4NL would equate to live I guess 2-5NL. Mandalay actually has a 2-4NL game it's a $500 max buy-in. Venetian has 1-2NL $300 max, 2-5NL $1k max, and 5-10NL no cap. Bellagio has 2-5NL $500max, 5-10NL $1k max, and 10-20NL no cap. Wynn has 1-3NL, 2-5NL, and 5-10NL all no cap. Caesars has 1-3NL $500max, 2-5 and 5-10NL no cap.
The games I listed are the limits that you will find there pretty regularly. Not sure what you're looking to play, but if you're a good player and have decent game selection, I think $5k would be plenty to play at the 2-5 games.

3. The higher end clubs are around $20-$30 for cover. Connections can get you past the line and get in for free.

4. Depends what are you planning on using the money on? Other forms of gambling, clubs? I'd say about $2500.

5. Before I lived here I loved Vegas so it depends on individual taste. I always had to stay at least a week.
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:50 AM
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appreciate the response.

Hmm, in regards the the hotel, the only thing I don't want to happen is that I arrive and there are no poker rooms left, I'm guessing they have an allotted # of rooms and once they're gone that's it? or is the poker room rate for all rooms that aren't filled? Also if I'm there with a friend can we split the hours (unlikely)? Do I have to check out and check back in every day or can I just tell them to keep the room and I will play the # of hours needed (depends on casino host)?

Thanks for the info everyone, appreciate it. I'm currently using expedia to book a hotel for at least 3 nights, it seems cheaper to book flight+hotel together.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:24 PM
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http://www.allvegaspoker.com/

enjoy, all the rooms and their rates and their spreads ETC
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