3beting preflop in late position - a play I fell very strong about.

Borys313 · #1 07-21-2007, 12:12 PM

Imagine one player raised the rest folded, and you sit there with A356 on the button.
You have to raise and its a must, many people will just call but thats wrong.

Imagine the blinds sit there with hands like 679J and similar, if one of them decides to call he will you usually have the best equity of you all!!! When the flop comes low you will start battling with the preflop raiser just to get quartered by the guy who is blinds. He will also hit the flop but from the better side and always make bigger 2 pair then you and higher straights with a hand like 5678.

And thats what you have to avoid, make him fold at any cost.
Not to mention the fact that if you make the pots heads-up you can usually take it down by betting on bad flops cause some will give you credit for AAxx.

Truthiness24 · #2 07-21-2007, 02:01 PM

Sometimes.

This seems very player dependent.

Borys313 · #3 07-21-2007, 02:14 PM

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This seems very player dependent.

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I will not raise only if I am sure the original raiser has Aces with a wheel card (this guys usually have about 3-4% PFR and are easy to spot), otherwise i go ahead and re-raise
when against only one villian.

Lord_Strife · #4 07-22-2007, 01:15 AM

I can agree with this, standard split-pot limit game strategy, raise to force out people with weak highs to increase your scooping percentage... seems standard to me, although I'm fairly aggressive for O8 compared to most, but it works for me.

Usagi_yo · #5 07-22-2007, 02:18 AM

High limit yes, low limit no.

High limit, typical players have clues and respect raises and re-raises with oop marginal hands. Blinds can give up to re-raises and not feel like they are being run over.

Low limit, forget it. You can't out smart a non-thinking player.

Shabamabam · #6 07-22-2007, 02:33 AM

Was gonna say the same thing as Usagi.

I definitely try to get headsup with position as much as I can, but sometimes at certain levels.... THEY JUST WON'T FOLD (blinds).

If you get blinds that fold though... it's very +EV to try and isolate.

Borys313 · #7 07-22-2007, 02:49 AM

Thats a good example for my theory, I higly doubt my hand would hold up 4-way and the blinds are damn loose.

PokerStars 75/150 Omaha/8 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4.83 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6.83 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.83 BB

Results in white below: 
CO has Jh Jd 2s 6c (High: two pair, jacks and tens).
Hero has 3h Ac 9c 5h (High: two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.83 BB.