10-20 2 pairs on the turn, vilain raises all in.

[king_of_drafts]

snap call

[donkey]

i would call and feel very happy about it

[Suaimhnea]

Get it in... whaddaya need?

This is definitely a drawy-float situation. 2 Pair is an easy call IMO.

[PHiLLeDINGUE]

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Easy call imo.

I've seen TT-AA do this before, as well as Ahxh.

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[Moonshine]

if he's a multi tabler as you say i'd call. pretty margainal though

[NMcNasty]

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I think you can actually fold this against many players on party. Semi-bluff (and pure bluff) raises on the turn are actually very rare in my experience, so I don't see what we are beating.

Call agaisnt trickier players and unknowns, obviouslly.

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Yeah I think this is definitely foldable in certain spots. When we are ahead our opponent usually has a ton of outs and when we are behind we have 0 to 4.

[Flatlanman3]

Not always... many villians make this play with overpair in addition to Ah Xh, in which case he would be the one with 8 outs

[NMcNasty]

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Not always... many villians make this play with overpair in addition to Ah Xh, in which case he would be the one with 8 outs

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I still consider 8 to be plenty of outs, maybe a not a "ton", but the point is against a tight player who doesn't play overpairs like this or pure bluff very often you are only going to have an average of about 3 outs when behind and ur opponent will probably average about 11 when you're ahead. This isn't an instacall. Your hand isn't much better than an overpair and there are plenty of tight players out there just set-mining, waiting to stack that type of hand.