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Old 11-13-2007, 12:47 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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10/20 playing 8 handed.

a loose passive player open limps in the hijack. i raise to isolate with A5s OTB. the blinds fold and he calls.

flop is Ks5d4d. He checks, I bet, he calls quickly.

Turn Th. he c/c

River Kc. He checks I bet for value...
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:59 PM
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If it's thin I think it may be because we're not getting called very often. I thin we're almost always ahead here, no?
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:06 PM
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nh
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:00 PM
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no, you get called by a better hand more than you get called by a worse hand.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:03 PM
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no, you get called by a better hand more than you get called by a worse hand.

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I agree with the big green elephant here. Do you have any read on the guy? Any idea of his open limp range? I think you're going to see the middling pocket pairs a lot here, as the 4s and 5s have to be discounted in his opening range, right? I check this behind.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:10 PM
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Player dependent - yes ... but in my 10/20 game the loose passive are open limping with K,Jo; Q,Jo; A,10o (50% of the time); any pocket pair below 10s. Against that range you don't have any value in the bet. You raised, they put you on A,K but they're deperately hoping that you're getting frisky with A,Q and they've talked themselves into being showdown committed. I think you get shown a better hand here easily 75%+ of the time. In my game against the majority of the loose passive players the turn bet is the last I put in the pot unless and Ace comes on the river. The ace buys you fold equity, otherwise this is getting shown down and you are behind.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:15 PM
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If the loose passive players range was as restricted they wouldn't be loose passive. Then they would be weak tight. Does not apply, methinks.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:31 PM
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does he pay off with Ahigh?

would he ever fold A5?

how does he play 88 and 99 pf?
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:11 PM
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does he pay off with Ahigh?

would he ever fold A5?

how does he play 88 and 99 pf?

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The answers I was assuming for these questions are:

No Never.
No Never.
Limps them cause he's loose passive.

With those answers, I think a bet makes no sense. If the answers were different, then we'd have to talk a bit more about it.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:21 PM
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would he ever fold A5?



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Not once he calls the turn.

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