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Old 10-23-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

I do not mind a flop 3 bet here. At all. I check behind on the turn here and see hte river action. [censored] that spade.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

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it went check check on the turn.. river was another spade.. anyone bluff here?

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Well if you had AK or AA with the ace of spade you would have fire again on the turn so bluffing the 4th river spade isnt a good idea IMO if your opponant is smart.

If i was vilain i probably would call you with any decent spade seriously , but again im curious to see what vilain had.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

I hate the flop 3B. We're 200bb deep and we have TPTK not a set. I feel this is just going to let him shove his big hands that have us crushed and get away from hands like KQ.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

Did he really call with a naked flush draw? Doesn't seem like he would have the odds, calling $22.5 to win $99.75.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

no he had KTc
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

meh how often do you guys think he has a Flush here I mean isnt that more likley to push/fold flop?

If he tanked isnt a more marginal hand KQ KJ maybe JJ dunno just seems like a weird spot to just say I give up after flop action. kinda too mush in the pot to bet/fold though right?
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

I think b/folding is best here. By checking you may induce a bluff and fold the best hand, unless you plan to call. By betting you can get value from KxQs and protect against one card FD. We're usually ahead of his pre-flop CCing range, and flop raise/calling range here, ex.Kx, bluff, and behind a flsh draw /set. A set shvs flp as do most FDs.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:12 PM
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How can we b/f here? A third of the effective stacks are already in the middle here.. After we 3-bet the flop and get called 3-way, the last thing that happens on the turn is an induced bluff. If he bets here we are beat 90% of the time.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: AK flops top pair 200bb deep

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After we 3-bet the flop and get called 3-way, the last thing that happens on the turn is an induced bluff.

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We don't get called 3-way. We get called by villain who tanks for awhile and then calls.
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