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Old 08-30-2007, 06:06 PM
lehighguy lehighguy is offline
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Default Cognitive Dissonance

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/op...mp;oref=slogin

What strikes me is how he can catalogue how ineffective and detrimental his policies were to the children in paragraph one, they go on to continue advocating them in paragraph two. How does the author manage this cognitive dissonance.

Paragraph 1:
"On a warm winter afternoon in Guangzhou, I accompanied Chinese police officers on a factory raid in a decrepit tenement. Inside, we found two dozen children, ages 8 to 13, gluing and sewing together fake luxury-brand handbags. The police confiscated everything, arrested the owner and sent the children out. Some punched their timecards, hoping to still get paid. (The average Chinese factory worker earns about $120 a month; the counterfeit factory worker earns half that or less.) As we made our way back to the police vans, the children threw bottles and cans at us. They were now jobless and, because the factory owner housed them, homeless. It was “Oliver Twist” in the 21st century. "

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What can we do to stop this? Much like the war on drugs, the effort to protect luxury brands must go after the source: the counterfeit manufacturers. The company that took me on the Chinese raid is one of the only luxury-goods makers that works directly with Chinese authorities to shut down factories, and it has one of the lowest rates of counterfeiting.

Where exactely does he think these kids are going home too? Assuming they even have a home, its probably worse in rural china then where they were.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Cognitive Dissonance

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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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Old 08-30-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Cognitive Dissonance

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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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So you support fraud?
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:15 PM
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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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So you support fraud?

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How many people buying a "Louis Vitton" purse for $20 think they are getting the Genuine Article?
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:45 PM
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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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So you support fraud?

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How many people buying a "Louis Vitton" purse for $20 think they are getting the Genuine Article?

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That's not the point. Are you and Nielsio seriously telling me that in AC-land people would have the right to sell products under other people's brands?
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:10 PM
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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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So you support fraud?

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How many people buying a "Louis Vitton" purse for $20 think they are getting the Genuine Article?

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That's not the point. Are you and Nielsio seriously telling me that in AC-land people would have the right to sell products under other people's brands?

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It's not? How is it a fraud if I know I'm buying a replica? If we know it's not the real thing, how is it being sold "under other people's brands"? Appearance is protectable intellectual property? How far are you willing to go with that? The first guy to sell a brown purse gets a monopoly on brown purse distribution?

People don't have a "right" to sell anything. That's different from someone else having a right to stop them.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Cognitive Dissonance

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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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So you support fraud?

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How many people buying a "Louis Vitton" purse for $20 think they are getting the Genuine Article?

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The fact that people are willing to pay as much more for the Genuine Article as they are makes me think it's entirely possible that people really do believe it.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:16 PM
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Much like the war on drugs, these kind of policies are batshit insane and the Chinese government, Western governments AND the author of this article hates the poor and the middle class.

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So you support fraud?

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Ofcourse.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:42 PM
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This is a fluff article that has been endorsed by Luis Vuitton or Coach or Prada. LOL, buy a knock-off and you fund Hezbollah.

IMO, the cognitive dissonance is the result of one of two things:

1. One the author hated doing this job and did a bad one; or

2. The author believed it himself because he is stupid and it shows in his writing.

This was an entertaining read. Bin Laden is the new boogeyman. Anytime you do something naughty, you help his cause.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:57 PM
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This was an entertaining read. Bin Laden is the new boogeyman. Anytime you do something naughty, you help his cause.

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Right. It's the new religion. Instead of satan, it's now 'the terrorists' that you are helping.
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