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Old 07-26-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: playing against ratholers

lol, here I made a raise to 4BB, and am facing a 18.5 BB shove hand
I think you should chill/ decent post.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:07 PM
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jkkkkkkkk,

people are dumb. even 2p2 tags. they wont realize it until they get educated. so thats what im trying to do.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: playing against ratholers

good post luego.

one of the reasons i've changed my opening raises to 3xbb is because of all the ratholers.

understanding each ratholers range in certain situations is obv very important.

some are extremely tight making folds a lot easier. some are retarded loose and will squeeze an UTG raise+call from the BB with Ax trash. it shouldn't take too long to figure them out.

ratholers are very easy to play against. they are sad little people who suck at poker. getting mad at them and making [censored] calls to suckout is silly.

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Old 07-26-2007, 06:35 PM
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luego,

without being rude, dont you see why calling people dumb and helping them over come such a simple sit is a dumb thing for you to do?
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: playing against ratholers

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luego,

without being rude, dont you see why calling people dumb and helping them over come such a simple sit is a dumb thing for you to do?

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It's not that simple. Figure it out.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:44 PM
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of course it is, it's the principle of teaching people who wont think for themselves how to. if somesone isnt doing this then a shortstack pushing every now and then isnt hard. its basically an stt problem.

if im going wrong please give me a hint, either here or via pm. i will trt my best to prove you wrong which will help one of us [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: playing against ratholers

cockandbull -

a lot of people are thinking like MyTurn2Raise in this thread - either like him or EM2. They figure they're giving up so little in EV that it's worth it to do this.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: playing against ratholers

EM2 made a good point actually. If its marginally -EV, you're better taking a shot now cause either you win the hand or free the spot to add EV to the table, if you assume a random person filling in is +EV, hopefully is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:34 PM
NOSUP4U NOSUP4U is offline
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I've seen IMSA shove A5o from the bb to a button open. Hope that helps your ranges.

Imsa, how come I can't see your avatar anymore? I see everyone elses. (actually don't see IHateCats av either). Am I the only one with this problem?

Mark
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: playing against ratholers

Who is beating 5/10 and 10/20 on stars for 6PTBB/100? I am
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