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Old 03-13-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

CO is a 20/4/7 and SB is a 40/9/9 over a small sample.

Put myself in a tough spot here...anyone in favor of either shoving or cold-calling PF or is the RR ok?

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Hero (t2465)
UTG (t1870)
UTG+1 (t1880)
MP1 (t885)
MP2 (t3505)
MP3 (t2510)
CO (t2095)
Button (t3180)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t175, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t700</font>, CO folds, SB calls t500.

Flop: (t1600) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...
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Old 03-14-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

anyone?
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Old 03-14-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

Reraise is good, probably a bit small 8-900 is better. I doubt sb has an ace given preflop. If he does have one, then I'm going to be broke. I'd just check the flop since the board is pretty safe.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

Reraise is good. As grafyx said make it 800/900.

Check post flop seems ok two. I switching to call down here.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

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Reraise is good. As grafyx said make it 800/900.

Check post flop seems ok two. I switching to call down here.

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Old 03-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

What I actually did here is bet 800, planning to fold to a CRAI. I figure he won't CRAI with anything that I beat, and instead of going broke to an A, I leave myself about 1000 chips and am still alive.

To me, that seems superior to agreeing to go broke to an A. Thoughts?
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

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What I actually did here is bet 800, planning to fold to a CRAI. I figure he won't CRAI with anything that I beat, and instead of going broke to an A, I leave myself about 1000 chips and am still alive.

To me, that seems superior to agreeing to go broke to an A. Thoughts?

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His play seems like a lower pocket pair here. I'm not sure he would call with a relatively weak ace (A8-AJ) and I think a c-bet would easily take down the pot. Now obviously is he has 77 or 22 hes all in but you should be able to fold with an ace out there. Too bad if the flop was J72, I think I would go broke vs. a set. Just my opinion
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

Fold everytime with the Ace there - One Comes up almost every hand and you cant really judge his play that easy - Could be slow playing - maybe has a lower Ace kicker - like 2 or 3 or 4 causing him to worry I know I do with that kind of hand - -He also might think you have a Higher kicker like AK - Push a little till he goes all - if he does then fold -theres lots of other chances to kick his Butt !-

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Old 03-14-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB facing raise and cold-call, clumsy stack sizes

I think the only ace hand he can have is AQs. AK would re raise preflop, AJ or lower would usually fold to your reraise. Other hands in his hange probably include: 88-TT. I would say that is about it.
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