Absolute Poker Unethical Practices

[scorer]

Marc Seif should be returning from the wsop and hes an absolute poker pro, perhaps he can help. How about the model that does there aptv commercials???

[aiYenta]

You'd be right most of the time. However I've had my account for a long time there and have cashed out before.

I know real people with absolute, I was never worried about getting my money, I do have concern for everyone else, because the site lacks enough capital obviously.

Since I posted this I might as well update:

They claimed that epassporte has notified them that my epassporte account is in good standing. The truth is epassporte has not had any conctact with them still. And everything absolute has tol dme so far has a been a lie. why? I don't know. I guess to cover the other lies.

Along with the most recent email, they put the money back in my account and told me I could cashout. This after I spent 25 minutes on the phone with them requesting a cashout by check because their software is too buggy to do it online.

Now I must send a peer to peer transfer and swap with my friend on another site. All of this effort for only $2900.





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Why is it that low post-count members seem to have their accounts hacked into or run into these kinds of troubles moreso than the regulars? I think there's more to this story than the OP states. Also, what's up with this line - "I closed my neteller account because of fraud on their part (another long story)"?

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Probably because it's mostly the new (online) players who end up running into problems like this. It follows that they wouldn't be a long-time poster at a poker board since they're new to online poker. It's the new depositors who request cash-outs that get the most attention from the fraud investigators. And these new players freak out because they immediately get paranoid that the site is going to screw them over and steal their money.

Nine times out of ten these people end up getting paid in the end. However, they very rarely come back here to tell us about it when it happens.

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[MicroBob]

I'm trying to follow what you are talking about here but some of it just doesn't make sense to me.


Didn't you say at first that they were going to provide a check for your cash-out but you didn't want that?

And now you say you spent 25 minutes telling them to give you a check (that I thought they were okay with giving you in the first place)?


they completely took your money out of your account? I just thought they didn't allow you to use epassporte.


You are unable to cash-out via their online methods too?
I know their software is buggy, but I never really considered that this would prevent me from cashing-out there.


So now they are letting you cash-out to epassporte like you wanted to originally?? (this isn't quite clear, they say that you are in good standing at epassporte, but you didn't say if this meant you could cash-out to there now).

But instead of cashing-out to epassporte like you wanted to all along you are instead doing a peer-to-peer thing?


Lots of this having to do with a big problem with neteller,
a big inconvenience with getting a check,
a big issue with being unable to use epassporte,
and a big problem with using their supposedly buggy cash-out page?


This seems like a lot of different cash-out issues that you have that I'm not sure are entirely related to Absolute.


but, again, I might not quite be following everything that is happening here because I don't think you have been very clear on some of this (and perhaps not entirely forthcoming).

[aiYenta]

1)Deposited with Epassporte
2)Neteller account of mine I had closed was previously used to deposit and withdraw with absolute
3)Absolute only issues withdrawls with Neteller, Firepay or Check
4) The software would not let me cashout via express check for some reason
5) I called absolute, they said check sent in 48 hours
6) 3 days later they say epassporte is investigating
7) #6 Confirmed as lie
8)They send email stating epassporte says my account is ok and inexplicably put the money back in account.
9) Epassporte's supposed contact with them confirmed to be a lie.
10) Epassporte says they have merchant account and they must issue creditbacks if requested to the the amount deposited.
11) I send balance via inter account transfer to a friend who has neteller.
12) My problem solved

Conclusion: Absolute Poker lies inexplicably and violates the terms of their merchant account. Motive? Not enough operating capital to maintain enough liquidity over it's 10 payment intermediaries.

Hope that's a little less confusing. It really should be confusing to you, because absolute has done nothing but confuse me.

[Barrin6]

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I'm a long time lurker. And well known in the poker community. There's no point to spend my life posting away so I can have more credibility in your mind.

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A well known in the poker community? What community? No one cares if you are a well known person if you haven't post here. You are better off telling other people in your own "community" about this. Until you give us better details and a better layout of what happen, you should get the [censored] off this site. Don't go on your high horse and pretend you are better than us, then suddendly just appear because you need help.

[SavageMiser]

I don't think he's looking for help. He's just warning others. Lay off.

[passthesuga]

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I don't think he's looking for help. He's just warning others. Lay off.

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Couldn't agree more. Some of the "high number" posters really have a chip on their shoulder. If all of your posts are as negative, demeaning and accusatory as this (Barrin and Str8Fish), then it is you, sirs, who should **** ***. Note that MicroBob adresses the issue with respect and appropriate detail. No wonder he is a respected poster, he would certainly never talk the disrespectful crap that you two fools were. Next time, just move on to the next post.

It always amazes me how some people think having over 1000 posts gives them the right to be complete *** *****.

Shame on you.

Oh, and rather than spending hours a day posting to show how much of a poker guru you are to all us non posters, take a meditation class or see a psycholoist. It may help both your game and your outlook on life and other HUMAN BEINGS.

[suzzer99]

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I don't think he's looking for help. He's just warning others. Lay off.

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Couldn't agree more. Some of the "high number" posters really have a chip on their shoulder. If all of your posts are as negative, demeaning and accusatory as this (Barrin and Str8Fish), then it is you, sirs, who should **** ***. Note that MicroBob adresses the issue with respect and appropriate detail. No wonder he is a respected poster, he would certainly never talk the disrespectful crap that you two fools were. Next time, just move on to the next post.

It always amazes me how some people think having over 1000 posts gives them the right to be complete *** *****.

Shame on you.

Oh, and rather than spending hours a day posting to show how much of a poker guru you are to all us non posters, take a meditation class or see a psycholoist. It may help both your game and your outlook on life and other HUMAN BEINGS.

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Sounds like something a 33-post-er would say.

[WiSeIVIaN]

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I don't think he's looking for help. He's just warning others. Lay off.

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Couldn't agree more. Some of the "high number" posters really have a chip on their shoulder. If all of your posts are as negative, demeaning and accusatory as this (Barrin and Str8Fish), then it is you, sirs, who should **** ***. Note that MicroBob adresses the issue with respect and appropriate detail. No wonder he is a respected poster, he would certainly never talk the disrespectful crap that you two fools were. Next time, just move on to the next post.

It always amazes me how some people think having over 1000 posts gives them the right to be complete *** *****.

Shame on you.

Oh, and rather than spending hours a day posting to show how much of a poker guru you are to all us non posters, take a meditation class or see a psycholoist. It may help both your game and your outlook on life and other HUMAN BEINGS.

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Sounds like something a 33-post-er would say.



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LOL

[ubercuber]

Isn't *** ***** one word?