Difficult desision for KK

ZoolooZ · #1 09-27-2007, 08:36 AM

Afraid i cant find the hand history for this hand, but ill do my best to recap.

Playing .25/.50 NL Hold'em
My stack $75

UTG raised to $2
Folded to me on button with KK and i raise to $6
UTG calls

Flop 2 7 10 rainbow

UTG Checks
I bet $8
UTG Moves in for $70

What should i do?

If you think its a call please list the hands i have beat!

TheKitbag · #2 09-27-2007, 08:39 AM

at 0.25/50 this is a hard spot but i think i fold here. these sorts of huge overbets are rarely bluffs. you can find better spots than this

masterdon · #3 09-27-2007, 09:04 AM

You MIGHT be ahead, but calling these huge overbets with only an overpair will cost you a lot of money in the end. I fold.

ZoolooZ · #4 09-27-2007, 09:21 AM

What hand u think he has got! bare in mind i reraised an UTG player and i know he is good enough to put me on AK AA or KK i also know he had a premium starting hand with his UTG raise.

capodu · #5 09-27-2007, 09:22 AM

Without knowing that guy will overplay ovepairs, or top pair you would have to fold. There is nothign that you beat that a sane person would do this with, but most of the time I see someone do this they are bluffing or have a draw. In my experience from NL100 I would flip a coin and call.

capodu · #6 09-27-2007, 09:23 AM

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What hand u think he has got! bare in mind i reraised an UTG player and i know he is good enough to put me on AK AA or KK i also know he had a premium starting hand with his UTG raise.

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again no reads, no stats you cant be sure he has a premium hand and is a thinking player...

Bulletproof Monk · #7 09-27-2007, 09:23 AM

i call

Rjack · #8 09-27-2007, 09:30 AM

he has A-10

junkmail3 · #9 09-27-2007, 09:38 AM

I call here most of the time. Good players usually won't sacrifice the value with monsters, bad players will slowplay it more (generally). I think you're ahead here pretty often.

Hands include: straight draws, Tx, 8x, QQ-, AK/AQ, complete bluffs.

masterdon · #10 09-27-2007, 10:31 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($129.30)
Hero ($131.90)
Button ($107.20)
SB ($139.70)
BB ($104.75)
UTG ($69.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, BB calls $10, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($33.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $21, BB raises to $93.75, MP folds, Hero calls $72.75.

FWIW, here is a situation that is similar to the OP's, but is different in enough ways to warrant a call IMO.

1) Villain cold-called a 3bet and is a 50/20 fish
2) Board is more coordinated and could potentially give his range more draws than OP's board
3) Stacks aren't 140bb deep, so the shove is about 1.5x pot