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Old 04-30-2007, 02:53 PM
SonOfWestwood SonOfWestwood is offline
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Default NL $2, KK hand, turn decision

BN has stats of 49/7/1.1 after ~75 hands. I saw him pre-flop min-raise from 8 to 16 in the BB w/ AK one hand, and bet ~2/3 pot when checked to on a flop that he didn't hit. Otherwise, he's been unremarkable.

SB ($51.28 in chips)
BB ($78 in chips)
UTG ($252.06 in chips)
Hero ($226.20 in chips)
CO ($241.08 in chips)
BN ($429.55 in chips)

Pre-Flop: Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
UTG raises to 6, Hero raises to 20, CO folds, BN calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds

Flop (~48) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 37, BN calls

Turn (~122) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, BN bets 80, Hero ??

Please point out any part of the hand that's poorly played, but I'm mainly concerned about the turn decision here.

With his cold call pre-flop, I'd think he's got a pocket pair (more likely 88+), AK, AQ, slight chance of AJ, maybe KQ or KJ also. After calling my bet on the flop, and then betting strong when checked to on the turn, I just have a hard time putting him on anything that I beat. Maybe AQ, but that's about it.

Am I the biggest wimp ever for considering a fold here?

Thanks for your comments.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: NL $2, KK hand, turn decision

Put it in.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: NL $2, KK hand, turn decision

No you're not a wimp for considering folding here. Still I don't think it's +EV. I think that you need to just crai here especially against this donkey. Sure he could have a set or AA but this guy plays a ton of hands and he's just as likely to have AQ/KQ/QJ/JT and call your shove.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: NL $2, KK hand, turn decision

I'd bet that turn hard or c/r if we're checking.
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Old 04-30-2007, 03:00 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: NL $2, KK hand, turn decision

Take this hand for example. THe villain I was against had better stats than your villain and ran at like 40/8/1. This hands not standard by any means, but it shows how once you get to the turn this way against this type of villain, you really just need to stick it in:

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $442.40
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $193</font>
UTG: $234.35
MP: $258.25
CO: $157.45
BTN: $133.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $6</font>, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $32</font>, MP folds, CO calls $26, BTN calls $26

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($103) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $70</font>, CO calls $70, BTN folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($243) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $91</font>, CO calls all-in for $55.45
Uncalled bet of $35.55 returned to Hero

<font color="black">River:</font> ($353.90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $353.90 ($3 Rake)

CO had T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$157.45)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and WON (+$193.45)
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Old 04-30-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: NL $2, KK hand, turn decision

shove it plz
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