Living and Playing in Vegas

[ThaHero]

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Reged: 11/04/05
Posts: 530

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(I wasn't kidding either about the guy who called my 6 times the BB preflop raise with Q/3 just because it was suited).

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I for one can't wait to get the heck out of here, and move someplace where I can play REAL poker.

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DOES NOT COMPUTE.

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QFT

Maybe you're just on a bad run, or need to play more cash games. Or I guess increasing the buy-ins to the tournies would be akin to moving up where they respect your raises?

[CincyLady]

how does it not compute? Colorado the max bet here is 5 bucks, which means the only legal live poker here, is limit poker. The max game here, is 5/5 limit, dealer choice.

Here in Colorado, it's known as bingo poker, because just about everyone stays in until the river, and most times they will indeed "bingo" on you.

Also, I've been posting here for almost 2 years, is that your point in posting my stats in the message? If so, how is that revelent to either the topic at hand, or to me as a poster?

As for me, all I was telling the OP, if he's interested in poker, don't move to colorado, there is no REAL poker here.

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QFT

Maybe you're just on a bad run, or need to play more cash games. Or I guess increasing the buy-ins to the tournies would be akin to moving up where they respect your raises?

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On the first point, until I moved here, I had not played such low limit poker since I first started playing. Simply put, I don't know how to play it anymore, and I really don't want to spend the money it'll cost me trying to relearn it, when it won't do me any good anyway.

On the 2nd point, yes that is exactly what I was meaning. If it costs the participant more money to play in a tourney, then they are going to either not play, or play better poker.

Most tourneys here cost less than 100 bucks to play in them, and heck, you can that much in playing live action here in about 30 min for most, so they don't think anything about losing that amount of money.

Bump it up to 500 bucks, don't allow for rebuys nor for reentry (as they do allow currently for ppl to do if they get knocked out), and it changes the flavor of things.

[jackdaniels]

What can I say?

You have been a member of this forum for 2 years now (almost) and still have the impression that you would do better in a higher stakes game where your raises and bets are "respected". This is flawed thinking and the source of income for many, many players. I suggest you read more of the strategy forums and pick up Theory of Poker (for sure, this is an absolute MUST, no if ands or buts).

I suggest you don't try and defend this incorrect concept out of some notion that I am just being argumentative in an online forum (I am not, what you are saying is wrong and that is fact). I also don't want to derail OP's thread any longer - I was just surprised by what you said and that surprise was compounded when I saw your reg date.

GL at the tables.

Edited to add: The above sounded a bit harsh upon second reading, but I don't want to change it. Instead, feel free to PM me and I can explain this concept a bit further if you'd like.

[Milo]

Do you have a "Day job" or is poker your livelihood?

Do you play Limit or NL, and at what limits?

Are tourneys a vital part of your poker life?

What are your priorities? Poker? Schools? Climate?

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The reason I ask all this is that I moved to MN primarily because this is one of the best places anywhere to raise a family. Good schools, good services, tons of stuff for kids to do. The poker is phenomenal if you are a mid-limit player, but blows if you are a NL player or high-limit player. Tourneys are also marginal. Weather is cold, but I've lived in FL, DC and MN, and find the weather here most tolerable of all those places.

[Cactus Jack]

You guys need lessons in reading comprehension.

I said I lived in MA for 13 years. I also lived in Chicago for one and the Minneapple for one, so you think I don't know cold? If I am saying it's cold, you might think I'm not kidding.

When you have temps every day for 3+ months over 100, 40 degrees is cold, baby. And the temperature in the wintertime really doesn't vary much at all. It will be in the middle 40s daytime and low 30s at night for weeks at a time. It just feels damn cold in the winter here. Up north, you get used to the cold. You don't here. The climate is the only thing that sucks.

Believe me, NOBODY wears shorts in Vegas in the wintertime. Not even the tourists. I had a Ozzie duster and wished I'd bought the liner. Just about the time you get used to the cold, it starts to get hot again. But Oct and Nov, late Feb through early May are fabulous, which is longer than most places I've lived.

[ThaHero]

I just don't understand why someone would want their opponents to play better, that's all. The whole point of playing poker is to find the worst players and exploit them, unless you're on some sort of ego trip and try to play HU vs. Phil Ivey just to prove you're better than him.

[LeavingMA]

Good question,

Whether I will need a day job will depend on the rental and real estate market in MA, I own rentals which currently require just hours per week.

I truly won't know until I'm settled whether I'll need to work. Poker is not my livelihood, I don't live close enough to give it a try. I will start out with the premise that I may be able to, without expecting, to make it a part of my livelihood.

I currently play NL, on occasion sit and go's as well as tournaments, while I have the basics down I have lots to learn and I am optimistic going forward. Once situated in my new home I plan to try different games.

Tourneys are important to me now.

Climate is important and I believe I could handle 40 degree winter weather, no frozen pipes and no snow (where it doesn't belong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

School is somewhat important in that a very bad school would be unacceptable but I plan to continue staying involved in my son's school work, before and after to see to it that he succeeds. I trust that Southern Vegas Schools will be acceptable and on par with his current school.

MN, though as a Swede I'd probably fit in well there, is way too cold for me. I don't function well in that type of weather, not even with clothes on.

[Cactus Jack]

One of the coolest things I've seen in the past year: one morning in Dec, the sun came up and all the way around on the mountains, snow. Beautiful! And I didn't have to even scrape frost off the windshield. Hard to beat that, anywhere.

The real estate market here is dead right now, and probably will be for the next few years. Prices are going to continue to go down. In 2010, expect them to be better as the new casinos come online. There will be lots and lots of new jobs.

I don't know about the schools here, but I suspect if you stay on the west side, you're in better shape. (I don't know if public schools anywhere are worth [censored] anymore.)

I expect you both to enjoy it, immensely. A tip for you...go to the Geology Dept at UNLV. There is a book there with day trips out of LV with explanations about what to look for. It's somewhere around $23 and worth every penny. The geology of southern Nevada is fascinating, and you and your boy would have a ball hiking the mountains around here.

Good luck

CJ

[LeavingMA]

I know exactly what you mean, I've been to SLC plenty times and you get to see snow in the mountains many months out of the year when it's warm in the valley.

At this moment I'm considering Rhodes Rhanch to the SW and Inspirada which is next to Anthem and more directly south. I figure newer schools with average to upscale residents usually mean better schooling, not just better school buildings.

Yes, I'm aware of the Vegas real estate market and I'm actually salivating at the opportunities going forward if I move there. I bought properties in MA during highs and lows and I know well what usually happens to real estate when things turn around, in either direction.

Thanks, we'll definitely go to UNLV as I suspect we'll go to explore many places while first arriving. Have you heard that they are building a big water park in Summerlin?

How bad are the insurance surcharges when you have tickets, I got a speeding ticket in Vegas 2-3 years ago coming in from UT and one in May for driving in the break down lane even though there were no lines left in the road. This is one of my beefs with Vegas, considering I was there visiting and that my last ticket in MA was in 1991 and then two in short order in Vegas from visiting. I also got justifiably miffed at the speeding ticket cop for asking me where my son's (he was in the back seat) mother was, as though the cop was probing whether I had killed and buried her in the desert or kidnapped mine or someone else's child.

Not too happy about that one, I'll tell ya.

[CincyLady]

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What can I say?

You have been a member of this forum for 2 years now (almost) and still have the impression that you would do better in a higher stakes game where your raises and bets are "respected". This is flawed thinking and the source of income for many, many players. I suggest you read more of the strategy forums and pick up Theory of Poker (for sure, this is an absolute MUST, no if ands or buts).

I suggest you don't try and defend this incorrect concept out of some notion that I am just being argumentative in an online forum (I am not, what you are saying is wrong and that is fact). I also don't want to derail OP's thread any longer - I was just surprised by what you said and that surprise was compounded when I saw your reg date.

GL at the tables.

Edited to add: The above sounded a bit harsh upon second reading, but I don't want to change it. Instead, feel free to PM me and I can explain this concept a bit further if you'd like.

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No, I'm not trying to defend anything here, as just because I've been a member of the forum, it doesn't mean I was an active one until very recently.

It's only recently that I've been looking at poker at more than something more than entertainment (where it didn't matter if I blew my money away, just as long as I had fun doing it). Hence why I've been participating a lot more in the past few months here, than I had in all the two years prior.

I'm really not interested in playing low limit poker, it just isn't something I like to do, especially since it's such a long trip to do so each time.

Unfortunutly for me, I'm in the telecom sector, and I finally had to come to terms that there were no jobs in that sector in the Cincinnati area (this after 3 years of layoffs from 3 different jobs, from companies that went out of business in the area).

I had family in the Denver area, hence how I landed here. Doesn't mean I like here (I don't), or that I like the poker here (I don't like that either).

Thus, if I got the chance to move to Vegas, Memphis, Louisville, or even Omaha, I'd take it.

As for higher stake games where my raises (or anyone's raises for that matter) are respected, I've got experience with that, and yes, they are, because if it's going to cost the player more money than a measley 5 bucks to call a raise, they are going to think twice before they play the hand.

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I just don't understand why someone would want their opponents to play better, that's all. The whole point of playing poker is to find the worst players and exploit them, unless you're on some sort of ego trip and try to play HU vs. Phil Ivey just to prove you're better than him.

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For me, I don't want them to play really well, but well enough (or rather at levels high enough) that it's not bingo poker either.