the three barrel thread

Guruman · #1 12-07-2006, 08:09 PM

post a hand where you fire three postflop bullets with a not-showdown worthy and unimproved hand.

thx!

sweetjazz · #2 12-07-2006, 10:27 PM

Here's a made-up hand where I would fire thrice:

I raise 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] OTB and a weak 35/8/1.0/37 BB calls. Flop is T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. He checks, I bet, he calls. Turn A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. He checks, I bet, he calls. (I might not always bet here, but given a good image or a tendency for my opponent to peel flops a bit light and give up on the turn, I would bet.) River 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He checks, I bet, he probably calls, but will fold missed draws that beat me in a showdown.

VickreyAuction · #3 12-07-2006, 10:53 PM

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Depends on your definition of non-showdownable, but anyway it turns out this was against a 24/13/1.8 over 400 hands. I don't remember playing this hand, so I can't tell you what I was thinking. Although, I was probably thinking that he's folding a better hand enough to make it a good river bluff. Looking at it now, that probably isn't true.

I really thought I had a better one than this. I'm still looking. Edit: Nope. They both turned into value bets on the river =P.

MacGuyV · #4 12-07-2006, 11:36 PM

Good idea - I used to just never do it but have been looking to incorporate. Board texture just felt right to me here, meh?

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (7.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets

VickreyAuction · #5 12-07-2006, 11:36 PM

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 7.66 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Js 9s (one pair, tens).
Button has As Qd (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Button wins 7.66 BB. 

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

(AttSteal 55, this was a resteal)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls.

River: (6.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB

Results in white below: 
MP has Jc As (one pair, eights).
Hero has Qh 9d (one pair, eights).
Outcome: MP wins 8.66 BB.

Scary_Tiger · #6 12-07-2006, 11:43 PM

Y'all spew and are playing into my Ace high loving hands. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

27offsooot · #7 12-08-2006, 12:26 AM

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Y'all spew and are playing into my Ace high loving hands. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Holy crap, I fire 3 barrels pretty regularly.
I haven't kept PT stats in a while, but really any time i read OP for a draw/ or the type that will call to river w/ ace high and then fold and i have a lower draw/ K high, i blaze away. I pretty much decide on the turn whether to fire a third barrel as it impacts my turn action, although if the river gives a likely str8 draw a pair/ straight or the flush comes in then i don't fire.

MacGuyV · #8 12-08-2006, 12:34 AM

vickrey,
The Q9 hand is a lot like mine so I like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
The other two are ugly though - who folds the river on a TT25 board?

Heisenb3rg · #9 12-08-2006, 01:01 AM

Vickrey, I think all your 3-barrels are spews.
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I like mcGahees if the opponent is a TAG and you're image is good.

I like jazz's, ideally the board were a little more connected.

Im very intrigued by this thread cause I know I dont fire enough 3rd barrels, keep em coming.

MacGuyV · #10 12-08-2006, 01:06 AM

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I like mcGahees if the opponent is a TAG and you're image is good.

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