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Old 09-09-2006, 03:53 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default 6H AK vs. UTG allin

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: UTG ( $6379 )
Seat 2: CO1 ( $1592 )
Seat 3: Hero ( $2700 )
Seat 6: button ( $2440 )
Seat 8: SB ( $3223 )
Seat 10: BB ( $3666 )
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [As Kc]
UTG pushes allin
CO1 folds.
Hero ???

UTG hasn't pushed a ton or anything and has built stack being too loose preflop (but not like 95o ZOMG ridiculous) and hitting a couple of big flops.

What do you do here? Please grunch before looking at it with tools.

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Old 09-09-2006, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 6H AK vs. UTG allin

INSTACALL
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 6H AK vs. UTG allin

I call.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 6H AK vs. UTG allin

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Old 09-09-2006, 04:30 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: 6H AK vs. UTG allin

Okay I think my question may be dumb now....but ok, I think a lot of opponents aren't savvy enough to realize that they can push a huge stack here b/c everyone else is under 10xBB...thus, their allin may represent middle pocket pairs and strong aces, in which case this would be -EV. The other issue is that AA/KK and maybe even QQ don't go allin here which greatly helps the cause.

I call but I do think it can be close and is a somewhat confusing situation to me b/c I don't know what to put UTG on.

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Old 09-09-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 6H AK vs. UTG allin

I think your instincts are right in that it's not a "great" call based on your read, but I'd guess that a "typical" big stack player here is pushing a number of dominated hands. I default call with AK on a push when I have < 10 BB in a non-bubble situation, but it's incorrect a not insignificant % of the time, since (for example) if you guess your opponent isn't pushing worse than AJ, you're not much of a favorite (even if you can "eliminate" AA/KK as that player would be more likely to raise less to induce action, etc.).

The most this guy is on the hook for is a little > 1/2 his stack, a lot of players will start pushing crap Ax hands with the big stack (even UTG) when losing means they keep a healthy stack (whereas if they had, say 5k and there were a couple of 4k stacks this would be less likely). This "relative stack-size information" should make you feel more comfortable calling with AK here. Also, the fact that it's semi-SH probably increases the odds he's pushing crap A-x hands as well (as well as KQ, KJ, KT, etc.).
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