98s

JJack · #1 10-04-2007, 12:20 PM

$0.50/$1.00

Button ($19.45) LAG 65/18/2 - 60 hands
SB ($18.50)
BB ($23.25) 14.17/4.17/1.67 - 120 hands
UTG ($31.23)
UTG+1 ($19.25)
UTG+2 ($5.80)
MP1 ($29.15)
MP2 ($40.12)
MP3 ($42.00) (Hero)
CO ($11.90)

Rest villais are loose and quite passive

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
1 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 folds, Hero calls,

1 folds, Button raises, 1 folds, BB calls, UTG+1

calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls,

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( 6.25BB )
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 folds, Hero

raises, Button raises, BB calls, 2 folds, Hero calls,

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 11.75BB )
BB bets, Hero calls, Button raises, 1 folds,

Hero calls,

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( 16.75BB )
Hero checks, Button bets, 1 folds,

Final Pot: 16.9BB

Is flop easy value(pot equity)/buy outs raise?
Is turn easy call based on that PFR is LAG and his action at flop/turn?

kerowo · #2 10-04-2007, 12:22 PM

Standard.

Smurph64 · #3 10-04-2007, 02:01 PM

you got the mutton end of a straight draw here so basically 4 good outs, Q wins half the time considering button. So 6 outs is what I give you here.

Why did you raise the flop with bb donking?

kerowo · #4 10-04-2007, 02:22 PM

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you got the mutton end of a straight draw here so basically 4 good outs, Q wins half the time considering button. So 6 outs is what I give you here.

Why did you raise the flop with bb donking?

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Check the board again, whatever straight he was going to hit on the river would have been the nut straight.

Aaron W. · #5 10-04-2007, 02:37 PM

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you got the mutton end of a straight draw here so basically 4 good outs, Q wins half the time considering button. So 6 outs is what I give you here.

Why did you raise the flop with bb donking?

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Check the board, the reads, and the action again, whatever straight he was going to hit on the river would have been the nut straight.

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FYP.

LAG doesn't hold AK half the time when he's raising 20% of his hands preflop at a full table. I think the Q outs are worth more than just 50%. Also, when he raises the turn, it is really unlikely that he holds AK.

Smurph64 · #6 10-04-2007, 02:42 PM

yeah but i am talking on the flop and we have to range more than just the preflop raiser here.

I am on a draw with many players here why do I want to isolate when the isolation is extremely unlikely considering the opponent yet to act.

kerowo · #7 10-04-2007, 02:54 PM

There are enough people in that our 8 outs are worth pumping the pot for, especially since we have the field trapped for one. This is an easy raise on the flop.

Aaron W. · #8 10-04-2007, 02:57 PM

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There are enough people in that our 8 outs are worth pumping the pot for, especially since we have the field trapped for one. This is an easy raise on the flop.

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It's not a terrible idea to save your raise for the turn to capitalize on your implied odds instead of immediate equity. Given the board texture, I suspect you'll be able to trap players for two bets if you believe BB is capable of donking again.

JJack · #9 10-04-2007, 03:42 PM

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yeah but i am talking on the flop and we have to range more than just the preflop raiser here.

I am on a draw with many players here why do I want to isolate when the isolation is extremely unlikely considering the opponent yet to act.

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I also was hope to kick oout someone with GS like K9.
If any limper has K9 and LAG will make 3bet then he may sometimes fold.
Also when I kick all kings (using LAG help) villains wont have many redraw on the river and I dont wanna split pot.
When I kick AT I wont have problem when turn will be king and i will draw dead at river.

Smurph64 · #10 10-04-2007, 03:58 PM

How much equity do I have here vs. 3 opponents compared to the equity I have vs. 5 opponents?