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#11
08-21-2007, 11:13 PM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
After complete, c/c 2 streets he has to know you have JJ or better, my guess is weighted towards at least QQ+, he still bet all streets. Obv he's got 9, T, or bluff. Now I havent played with him or know much about him but IIRC zang has an aggro image, with him knowing that does he expect to fold out overpairs here? Doubt he shoves the river expecting you to fold, so leads me to believe he's value shoving.
completely going the other way, just realized if he is aggro he could see Ax as being a large part of your range, if you would c/c flop and turn with Ax vs zang with much frequency you should probably call. 
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#13
08-21-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
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everyone knows zangbezan is imperium right? [/ QUOTE ] Right but only a select few have played SNG's with him. This hand is very read dependent and really depends on what he thinks you thinks about what he thinks about what you thinks, etc.
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#14
08-22-2007, 12:07 AM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
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everyone knows zangbezan is imperium right? [/ QUOTE ] That doesn't really help... So pretending I'm totally ignorant, "imperium" refers to a screen name on ???
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#15
08-22-2007, 12:19 AM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
p5s?
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#16
08-22-2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
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[ QUOTE ] everyone knows zangbezan is imperium right? [/ QUOTE ] That doesn't really help... So pretending I'm totally ignorant, "imperium" refers to a screen name on ??? [/ QUOTE ] this dude
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#17
08-22-2007, 12:22 AM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] everyone knows zangbezan is imperium right? [/ QUOTE ] That doesn't really help... So pretending I'm totally ignorant, "imperium" refers to a screen name on ??? [/ QUOTE ] this dude [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. I didn't know that was him.
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#18
08-22-2007, 12:29 AM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
What hands does he think you can call the river with? AA-JJ? Any 9 or T, 44. 5 pairs, 23 other hands. What does he think you check call with? 169 hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]? 80? He surely has a huge range here given you may be playing a wide enough range to fold 75% to his river shove. After flop and turn this is a good 3rd barrel against you with his whole range ie 169 hands. I think this is a call (probably why I'm not playing at this level [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
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08-22-2007, 12:49 AM
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Re: 2k turbo, ?
Seriously this is a ridiculously sick spot.
I keep arguing in circles in my head. If Sorel is good enough to bet the turn and river with a nine for value that would be so sick. Conversely his range after the turn is so wide that he only needs to bluff with it a small percentage of the time.
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