50NL - AQ in BB against tag

Vince. · #1 06-04-2007, 11:43 PM

Villain is 28/15/2.2 tag. I feel like I played this horrible. Should I always 3-bet this pf versus a tag or is a call ok?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($12.75)
Button ($81.85)
SB ($94.50)
Hero ($79.50)
UTG ($73.20)
MP ($17.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($9.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($23.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $23.75, Hero...

Lego05 · #2 06-05-2007, 12:00 AM

I fold pre-flop. I think a call is pretty bad.

PJo336 · #3 06-05-2007, 12:08 AM

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I fold pre-flop. I think a call is pretty bad.

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please be leveling???

Im fine calling pre, I cant help u with flop or turn, obvi fold river

Lego05 · #4 06-05-2007, 12:21 AM

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Im fine calling pre, I cant help u with flop or turn, obvi fold river

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That's why I fold pre-flop.

He's raising UTG meaning his range is smallish: 22-AA,AJ+,KQ, maybe a few other holdings...maybe not even that many hands. You are in the BB meaning you are OOP. This hand is going to be tough to play. On the button I would call. If he was UTG+1 and I was button I would raise.

As is in this hand I think folding>>>raising>>>calling.

I suppose I could be wrong. But he hits the A here and you yourself say you have no idea how to play it after hitting your hand.

rakes.a.beach · #5 06-05-2007, 12:25 AM

I don't like raising preflop or folding. So that leaves calling as the only option. I'd ocassionally raise, but never fold. AQ is ahead of a UTGs 15 PFR range.

I call river. I don't think he has AK. if he has a set, then more power to him.

vixticator · #6 06-05-2007, 12:28 AM

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He's raising UTG meaning his range is smallish: 22-AA,AJ+,KQ, maybe a few other holdings...maybe not even that many hands.

[/ QUOTE ]This is wrong. It's a lot wider assuming reasonable sample size. All broadway and a slew of suited connectors are in UTG's preflop range at 15% -- they are in mine and I am 17%. Raising preflop against this range with AQ is good. Otherwise you are playing into their hands and check-folding all kinds of flops when they cbet with nothing.

Lego05 · #7 06-05-2007, 12:29 AM

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AQ is ahead of a UTGs 15 PFR range.

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My PFR is around 15. My UTG PFR is more like 7.5 So you have to remember he's not raising 15 from every position. He's likely raising a lot more in LP and a lot less in EP.

Lego05 · #8 06-05-2007, 12:31 AM

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He's raising UTG meaning his range is smallish: 22-AA,AJ+,KQ, maybe a few other holdings...maybe not even that many hands.

[/ QUOTE ]This is wrong. It's a lot wider assuming reasonable sample size. All broadway and a slew of suited connectors are in UTG's preflop range at 15% -- they are in mine and I am 17%. Raising preflop against this range with AQ is good. Otherwise you are playing into their hands and check-folding all kinds of flops when they cbet with nothing.

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If you're raising pre-flop with a lot of broadway cards and a bunch of suited connectors I think you need to rethink your UTG raising range.

PaulG · #9 06-05-2007, 12:35 AM

Calling is OK from BB, but the problem is that you are OOP against the pf raiser. I imagine the whole hand you felt very uncomfortable. I would fold the turn as its obvious UTG wants to make you pay with your whole stack you don't really have the hand to do it with.

Make a note of this villian. Watch what he does against other players. Is this aggression normal with TPTK or is he trying to get you off your hand?

rakes.a.beach · #10 06-05-2007, 12:37 AM

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AQ is ahead of a UTGs 15 PFR range.

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My PFR is around 15. My UTG PFR is more like 7.5 So you have to remember he's not raising 15 from every position. He's likely raising a lot more in LP and a lot less in EP.

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AQ is def ahead of top 7.5% of hands. AQ is the 5th-6th best hand.