AA on ugly flop, disgusting turn... is this standard?

[iStackBooks]

The only hand I've shown is KK. Is this standard, or too weak?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3820670111: $7,500 Guarantee (28592279), Table 8 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:22:49 ET - 2007/10/11
Seat 1: jt4nadub (2,120)
Seat 2: swiftyz24 (1,615)
Seat 3: gankedpopo (1,325)
Seat 4: ValentineVi (1,870)
Seat 5: iStackBooks (2,985)
Seat 6: Lachbail (3,190)
Seat 7: KingAir300 (5,200)
Seat 8: De_NuttZZ (3,330)
Seat 9: Dave1043025 (1,985)
jt4nadub posts the small blind of 15
swiftyz24 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iStackBooks [As Ac]
gankedpopo folds
ValentineVi folds
iStackBooks raises to 100
Lachbail calls 100
KingAir300 folds
De_NuttZZ folds
Dave1043025 folds
jt4nadub folds
swiftyz24 calls 70
*** FLOP *** [Td Js 7d]
swiftyz24 checks
iStackBooks bets 315
Lachbail calls 315
swiftyz24 folds
*** TURN *** [Td Js 7d] [8d]
iStackBooks checks
Lachbail bets 650
iStackBooks folds

[iStackBooks]

This is easier to understand

Hero: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[jchauvin]

i play it the same.

[black666]

I would still lead the turn.
A 9 seems pretty unlikely in a raised pot. If I'm villain, I play it the same with Jx as this board looks scary as hell and with checking hero just gave up the pot.

[iStackBooks]

Yeah, after the hand I wished I woulda fired at the turn and shut down after that instead of just giving up when the scare card hit. How much on the turn?

[Rocco]

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Yeah, after the hand I wished I woulda fired at the turn and shut down after that instead of just giving up when the scare card hit. How much on the turn?

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Check-folding the turn isn't bad at all, but I think I fire another turn bet of approx 2/3 pot size. Give up on further resistance...

[black666]

The bet amount from villain (650) seems about right.
It's 2/3 of the pot and gets the job done ... which is why I would have made a 2/3 pot-bet on the flop too. It can look weak/strange if you always make a PSB and all of the sudden make it 2/3.

If villain check-raises, I'm obv done with the hand.

[levAA]

If we fire again on the turn:

Is this a value-bet or a bluff then?

[Soulman]

I probably wouldn't bomb the flop, as I would want to bet most turns if called. 250 seems better. Leading turn isn't bad for 2/3.

[black666]

Can be both. If villain is able to call with KQ, QQ, KK it's a value bet.

But because we never want villain to call/raise here, you can also see it as a bluff.