super tricky board

baltostar · #1 09-23-2007, 07:28 PM

Multi-part posting ...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2790
UTG+1: $2530
MP1: $6195
MP2: $3040
MP3: $3440
CO: $3060
Button: $3220
BALTOSTAR: $5150
BB: $5470

Pre-flop: (9 players) BALTOSTAR is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, BALTOSTAR calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($160, 4 players)
BALTOSTAR

Coz · #2 09-23-2007, 08:06 PM

I would have raised this preflop probably to around 160. As played, I would lead flop for about 110. And probably fold to a raise or a call and a turned 7 or Q.

Kimbell175113 · #3 09-23-2007, 08:21 PM

wtf preflop

On the flop, the hands you'll most likely get action from are Tx and Jx, where you want to charge them but you don't want to get bluffed. You can either make a biggish bet or check-call.

Do you have any reads on who is likely to bet if you check, or how many callers you'll get if you bet?

baltostar · #4 09-23-2007, 08:25 PM

No reads.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2790
UTG+1: $2530
MP1: $6195
MP2: $3040
MP3: $3440
CO: $3060
Button: $3220
BALTOSTAR: $5150
BB: $5470

Pre-flop: (9 players) BALTOSTAR is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, BALTOSTAR calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($160, 4 players)
BALTOSTAR bets $130, BB raises to $260, MP2 folds, CO calls, BALTOSTAR

kniper · #5 09-23-2007, 11:12 PM

folds

baltostar · #6 09-23-2007, 11:20 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2790
UTG+1: $2530
MP1: $6195
MP2: $3040
MP3: $3440
CO: $3060
Button: $3220
BALTOSTAR: $5150
BB: $5470

Pre-flop: (9 players) BALTOSTAR is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, BALTOSTAR calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($160, 4 players)
BALTOSTAR bets $130, BB raises to $260, MP2 folds, CO calls, BALTOSTAR calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($940, 3 players)
BALTOSTAR

Coz · #7 09-24-2007, 01:22 AM

I like Kniper's line of folding to flop raise, as played I check fold turn.

halpgr · #8 09-24-2007, 09:10 AM

Preflop I like.

On the flop I think bet/fold is good. You showed strength making a strong bet into 3 people. BB raised with two still to act. CO seems a fish for cold calling the bet/raise (unless he's slow playing a flopped straight) but you are likely behind on the flop and you don't know if a later A or J will just give you an expensive 2nd best hand.

check/fold the turn.

BarryLyndon · #9 09-24-2007, 10:36 AM

Preflop is fine.

I think bet/fold on the flop is fine, and you know why. The min raise wreaks of a weaker "J," and may lead to another stupid [censored] bet of 150 on the turn or something, so if the bet is really that weak, you could call again and hope for a cheap showdown. Definitely check the turn though, leading here is an obvious spew.

Barry
PS: I hope you weren't considering bluffing a 9, as the CO's call could very well be 910 or 97 here. It could also mean JQ, but there may very well only be 4 combos of JQ left given the action, so, not so likely.

Barry

baltostar · #10 09-24-2007, 12:13 PM

So, what do we think BB had ?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2790
UTG+1: $2530
MP1: $6195
MP2: $3040
MP3: $3440
CO: $3060
Button: $3220
BALTOSTAR: $5150
BB: $5470

Pre-flop: (9 players) BALTOSTAR is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, BALTOSTAR calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($160, 4 players)
BALTOSTAR bets $130, BB raises to $260, MP2 folds, CO calls, BALTOSTAR calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($940, 3 players)
BALTOSTAR checks, BB checks, CO checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($940, 3 players)
BALTOSTAR checks, BB bets $800, CO folds, BALTOSTAR folds.
Uncalled bets: $800 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $940