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Old 08-09-2007, 01:26 PM
chillywater8 chillywater8 is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

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I think a $10-15 win rate(1/2NL 100

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Not true, a slightly below average player will lose money (and quite a bit of it). [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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To clarify, at $4 rake and 30 hands per hour, an average player is losing $12 an hour. A slightly below average player loses $15 an hour, not wins $15 an hour.

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I called myself "slightly below average" because that is the overall level of player I believe I am. I have very few doubts I can continue to make 10-15+ at 1/2 NL 100 max Live in South FL and as I improve perhaps more. I am a winning 25NL player(75k hands) and a losing 50NL player(5k hands)(on pokerstars 6max) also a loser at MTT's overall, this is where I base my opinion of my level of play. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
My stratagy is play pretty nitty, I limp alot on BTN and CO with hands like 79s 89os J7s, I try to limp with any pair 88 and under in most spots and look for a set. I bet big pairs heavy enough to not give any sets odds at all to the callers(while i'm at my 100 stack). I play AK, AQ, AJ suited or not, KQs 99 TT very carefully, I do not overplay these cards OOP. Once I stack up to 200+ I try to play a more TAG game, but forget stealing blinds 95% of the time, because they will call.

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Your a "slightly below average" player and you plan on making $15 an hour in Florida cash games????????????

First off, how many NO LIMIT holdem players in Florida do you believe are going to have produced a winning amount of over $10 an hour after 500+ hours of play? The percentage is going to be considerably low.

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Let me put it this way, I think one of my better assets as a poker player is the fact that I don't overestimate my abilities. 90% of the players I'm up against believe they are great players and it hurts their play clearly. I know I have alot to learn about poker and try to spend as much time learning about poker as playing(I'm striving towards that anyhow). Compared to the players at the South FL casinos I'm not "slightly below average" at all, not what I meant, I was more comparing myself to people who take the game seriously at some level. As far as making $15 an hour playing these games, I have alot of confidence I can attain a rate very close to that over the next 500 hours. "how many will make 10+ over the next 500 hours?" "what %?" I don't know but I'd be happy to make a side bet with I'm one of them in spite of my slightly below average though improving every day abilities [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

i see making 10-12/hour over the long term in floridas games as about it. also why do people call a time charge "rake" when the two are very different?
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:11 AM
Fishhead24 Fishhead24 is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

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i see making 10-12/hour over the long term in floridas games as about it.

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How long is longterm........they have only had NO LIMIT since July 1st?

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One will need at the very least 1,000 hours logged in before they can get a sense of their correct hourly in these games.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:59 PM
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One will need at the very least 1,000 hours logged in before they can get a sense of their correct hourly in these games.

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Within how much at the point do you think? +-$2? or... 1000 hours about 30,000 hands. I know looking at my PT stats of 100K hands my win rate at 10K hands was through the roof until I had an inevitable prolonged downswing, I think after 100K hands it has pretty much evened out. Nevertheless a good player can on average make 15+ an hour at this game I am quite certian. Fishhead do you play in Pompano or Coco or?
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

thats what i was stating. in the long term for the next year
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

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One will need at the very least 1,000 hours logged in before they can get a sense of their correct hourly in these games.

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Within how much at the point do you think? +-$2? or... 1000 hours about 30,000 hands. I know looking at my PT stats of 100K hands my win rate at 10K hands was through the roof until I had an inevitable prolonged downswing, I think after 100K hands it has pretty much evened out. Nevertheless a good player can on average make 15+ an hour at this game I am quite certian. Fishhead do you play in Pompano or Coco or?

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No, mainly the games in the Tampa area.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

I dont get why ppl dont believe you can make much money from these games. I have so far logged 12 sessions which I personally believe Ive been running pretty bad and Im up over 1100. The players at these games are worse then online .10/.25 players literally. No one ever folds preflop, you play tight and bet your big hands and hope they hold up which generally they will. It gets even more profitable when 2 or 3 of the weak and horrible players at the table have a lucky session and build their stack up to 600+ (which happens constantly) and you will see 600bb pots with tptk all day. Theres even been a few 2k pots. And meanwhile you are only risking a small amount. So far I have not had a losing day over 200.00. If you knew how bad these players were, I think you would agree that these games could be very profitable.
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:20 AM
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Oh, I've seen them at Foxwoods and AC $1-2 games. I agree, worse than online NL25.

But you'll still have downswings where every donk who gets all the money in preflop with JTs hits his hand for what seems like days on end. That's poker.
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

believe me, i'm there now and it feels like ive been running bad for weeks. i am suprisingly up more than i thought but its definately been hard to deal with at times. but i feel like if i do ever go on a good run for a week, making 2-3k seems be very possible. at least at the dog track that i play at. I literally had a mentally retarded person sitting in the seat to the left of me my last 2 visits and he lost over 1400 in those 2 sessions. He would just go all in with any pair.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

I played at the one of the Canadian side (fallsview?) last spring. Only played for a couple of hours in the AM while the GF slept in.

It was very pleasant--and profitable. Worthy experience for a hours. Play was absolutely horrid. Actually, more action post-flop than pre-flop when I played, so there was a chance to see some flops. Then just make a hand and they will bet into you. Its not the $100 stacks, its the $30 stocks that invest 1/3 their stack and then won't fold.
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