Worrisome cold call level 1 of ME

[Foucault]

MP2 (22K): Very aggressive, very young, and very confident, opens literally 50% of pots pre-flop.

SB (20K): Very quiet Dane, seems solid and confident at the table.

Me (26K): Early 20's guy in Poker Stars cap. Have 3-bet MP2 several times. Got my chips after 3-betting AQ and playing passively in position with TPTK.

MP2 opens to 350. I call in the CO with TT. This should probably be a 3-bet, but let's not get caught up on it, it's not the interesting part of the hand. Dane calls in SB.

Flop (1150 in pot) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB checks, MP2 bets 800, I raise to 2500, Dane starts shuffling chips, counts out a raise, but elects just to call. MP2 raises his eyebrows and folds.

Turn (6950 in pot) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Dane checks. Hero?

[djk123]

check

[JackOfSpeed]

easy check

[2005]

I might go with bet/fold if you didn't pick up a gutshot on the turn there, but I'd check.

[NoahSD]

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I might go with bet/fold if you didn't pick up a gutshot on the turn there

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God.. I think that would be awful. I think I check back every turn card but a T here.

[JackOfSpeed]

bet fold is pretty bad with the way the hand went down (him calling the flop raise) -- couldn't he pretty easily have Adxd and be looking to CRAI on the turn?

obviusly it sucks letting 12-15 outs get there (if he only has 6, of course, checking isn't too awful if he'll bluff some of the time when he bricks), but getting CRAI here sucks if we're going to fold.

[Isura]

Flop raise sucks imo. You get him to fold everything worse, and get shoved on by better hands or combo draws. It also builds a big pot for the turn. Much better raise flop with AA than TT hre, and then bet/call the turn. Just call and play poker on the turn, this hand isn't going to be too hard to play with position.

[Foucault]

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Flop raise sucks imo. You get him to fold everything worse, and get shoved on by better hands or combo draws. It also builds a big pot for the turn. Much better raise flop with AA than TT hre, and then bet/call the turn. Just call and play poker on the turn, this hand isn't going to be too hard to play with position.

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Shoved on? Effective stacks are 20K, and I am raising to 2500. I think especially with a player behind me a raise is mandatory here.

[mikeJ]

Flop raise is fine/good. W/ pot odds, allows dane to overcall a wide range and you hate a bunch of turn cards and you won't know which cards will hit your oppt(s).

Even if you do get him to fold everything worse, this is not necessarily a bad result cause his flop range is wide enough. Do you expect to extract a whole bunch from a worse hand than TT here if we just call? Is that extra amt we extract enough to offset the times he catches up w/ overcards/middlepair/gutshots or when we get bluffed off our hand? Also, our hand has little chance to improve.

I would think that his flop call is almost always a big draw, so I can see an argument for betting the turn. Though, I think check/reeval river is best here. Folding if flush draw gets there, possibly picking off a bluff if the board bricks.

[uclabruinz]

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check

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