Razz .50/1 - betting 6th and 7th

[Sp00n]

I don't think villain will bluff-bet or bluff-raise very often because he has show-down value here. However, if his board something like xxJ36Jx it is more likely he will.

[RustyBrooks]

The question is how dumb the villain is. 6th st makes me think he doesn't understand razz very well, unless he just doesn't believe that prax has an 8. Anyway, not everybody knows that you shouldn't bluff hands that have showdown value.

If he never bluff-raises then it's a bet-fold, no? Even if he bluff raises fairly a bit you make more bet-folding.

[adanthar]

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If he never bluff-raises then it's a bet-fold, no? Even if he bluff raises fairly a bit you make more bet-folding.

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bet/folding seventh here is like setting the appropriate amount of money on fire

[RustyBrooks]

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If he never bluff-raises then it's a bet-fold, no? Even if he bluff raises fairly a bit you make more bet-folding.

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bet/folding seventh here is like setting the appropriate amount of money on fire

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If your opponent will NEVER raise as a bluff on the end then bet/fold is the obvious play. I don't believe such an opponent really exists.

The equilibrium point where folding is the same as calling is something like .2/15 which is about 1.3%. I don't treat razz like NLHE where you can give your opponent at least a 10% chance of bluffing but I can easily think that most razz opponents are capable of bluffing 1.3% of the time.

[Andy B]

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I don't believe such an opponent really exists.

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So why even bring it up? Bet/folding the river would be absurd.

[Praxising]

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Bet/folding the river would be absurd.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree, not even an option, tho' when he bet I was about 90% sure he'd sucked out on me. But I don't agree this is boardlock:

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6th Street - (6.30 BB)

Hero: 2 5 4 A 8 9___bets___raises
Seat 5: xx xx J 9 6 2___raises___calls


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I know definitions of words evolve and are sometimes situational. But while this display means I have him beaten on 6th, in my lexicon "boardlock" is when he <u>cannot</u> win on the river regardless of what card he gets. So, J96T would be boardlock, because the best possible hand he can make is a 9 hi. With the board he had, he could still make a 6. Which he did.

[Andy B]

I think that when everybody else uses the term "board-lock," they mean that the other guy currently cannot have you beaten. You have a board-lock on sixth, and as such should pump as much money into the pot as humanly possible.

[ChipsAhoya]

Prax, your definition of boardlocked is drawing dead, then. It's helpful to distinguish between the two...

-ChipsAhoya

[Andy B]

This guy just raised sixth street when he had a Nine against a very obvious Eight. You can't fold to a river raise.