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Old 11-09-2007, 09:37 AM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

Villian is unknown

What to do on the turn?


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BB ($45.5)
MP2 ($98.85)
MP3 ($102.9)
Hero ($159.9)
Button ($61.65)
SB ($70.7)

SB: Post SB $0.50
BB: Post BB $1.00

Preflop:
Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>
Hero Raise $3.5
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>
SB Call $3
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>

Flop:($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
SB Check
Hero Bet $6
SB Call $6

Turn:($20) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
SB Check
Hero Bet $14
SB Raise $36
Hero
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:52 AM
Suigin406 Suigin406 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

tbh, the A is not a bad card usually for us to shell at, but i think i just check behind on the turn on this board and with his small stack, as played, SB has barely any money left, so this is a fold imo
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:05 AM
rberg rberg is offline
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

folding is not even an option, we have more than enough odds here...

raising is useless too imo, cause he isnt folding
further he probably isnt folding for that little he has left if we get there, so call and save some money if you miss
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:28 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

Whats a DGGS? Because i have a feeling we don't have one.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:35 AM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

I think OP thought he was double gutted and somehow...uhh..doubleguttergutshot?...uhhh...ok so that doesn't work.

And to boot, he wasn't doublegutted, but I think thats what he was getting at.

I think check behind on turn is good, this board just does NOT look like its one where quasi shorty unknowns like to fold. But hard to tell out of context, I guess.

With 12 outs that are almost assuredly all good (I guess villain could presumably have JT or AT or whatever, but thats a pretty small looking percentage IMO), I think we definitely have odds to call here and save ourselves the remaining effective stack if we miss. We ARE getting paid off if we hit.

Shove is pointless (ldo). FE = about zero, and we will get paid off if we call and hit.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:56 AM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

oops I indeed thought I was double gutted here, my mistake, sorry. but what to do to his turn raise?
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

Flat it, you're getting fine direct odds and have good implied odds too.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: 100NL DGGS and FD on turn

If we call and stack him every time when he hit (and fold when we miss), then we're getting 4.3:1 implied and we're 2.8:1 to hit a flush or straight on the river. So under these assumptions it's a call. However he can sometimes have JT or trips/ 2pair which puts us in worse shape so it's pretty close really.
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