NL100 - 200bb Deep w/ the 3rd nuts - Page 2

MysteryV · #11 10-17-2007, 11:39 AM

So river was clearly a no brainer.

I guess my question was really in regards to the flop and likely results oriented.

While I thought about raising the flop, I chose to call as figured I was way ahead of his range and might as well give him a chance to bluff at me in position or perhaps make my hand look like a float on the turn.

In retrospect, I think AA, AK, 55 pay off and shove over a flop raise. Everything else I beat is done with the hand regardless of my action. In addition, If I think I'm way ahead of his range, why wouldn't I bet? I can only justify this with the ever-weak 'varying my play' qualifier.

In the end, villain held AQ – one of the hands I wanted to give a chance to catch up. Careful what you wish for.

thac · #12 10-17-2007, 01:01 PM

Mystery - what do you think his 3-bet range is OOP?

BanZaY · #13 10-17-2007, 01:48 PM

standard raise on flop...u want have his stack....so u need the pot bigger...and obviously that makes more easy decision later.

martijn · #14 10-17-2007, 01:52 PM

looks pretty standard

btw from what I've played on NL100 on FTP you were one of the best regs.

MysteryV · #15 10-17-2007, 01:57 PM

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looks pretty standard

btw from what I've played on NL100 on FTP you were one of the best regs.

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Lol - thank you. I'm guessing that by 'best' you mean 'spewy', and if so - you're right - I do some aweful [censored]. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MysteryV · #16 10-17-2007, 02:11 PM

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Mystery - what do you think his 3-bet range is OOP?

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I have a lot of trouble figuring out peoples 3-bet ranges oop as people often play really badly against me depending on how many hands they have on me / what style I was playing when they logged those hands, if it's a Tuesday or a Saturday (because as everyone knows, Tuesday's are 3-bet days while Saturdays I smooth call monsters [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ).

Really tho, getting someones 3-bet range to converge takes a LONG time as you have to play a LOT of 3-bet pots to showdown really. Now granted, people tend to play a little more solidly in 3-bet pots and you can get reads from that, however if you get 3 bet and shove KK and they show you AA, you learn very little IMO.

Long way of saying "I have no clue". He's not been 3-betting me particularly light recently, but then again I've not been particularly active at this table. Does he think he can setmine against me? Would he rather put in a raise with pps as he thinks my range is wide enough that I'll fold enough to make it profitable?

Really - I rule very little out.