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Old 11-08-2007, 12:45 AM
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a competent center fielder

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There are plenty of those available for mere cash. The Yanks are awash in cash.

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Can you name some better than melky?

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Andruw Jones, Torri Hunter, Mike Cameron, Aaron Rowand, Milton Bradley, and Kenny Lofton.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:10 AM
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Melky has significantly more range.

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You sure about that?

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Not after reading the plus minus rankings from the jeter thread. To be fair Rowand wasn't rated high either, but not as low as Melky. I guess I should have said Melky has far more range "factor" than Aaron.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: ***yankees official offseason thread*****

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a competent center fielder

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There are plenty of those available for mere cash. The Yanks are awash in cash.

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Can you name some better than melky?

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Andruw Jones, Torri Hunter, Mike Cameron, Aaron Rowand, Milton Bradley, and Kenny Lofton.

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What about Eric Byrnes? Please?

Out of that list I take Andruw. His defense is still stellar, and with a BABIP of .222 this year I'd bet on a bounce back year. Hes better than all of em if he hits his career averages.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:27 AM
MuresanForMVP MuresanForMVP is offline
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I just read this on espn.com

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"It's pretty obvious which players we're not going to trade," the owner's son said Wednesday, before rattling off the team's most-prized young pitchers. "Chamberlain, Hughes and even Kennedy.

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yeesh, that's kind of a douchey way of putting it. Kinda dissed Kennedy there if you ask me
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:25 AM
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You left out the most important part :

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"It's pretty obvious which players we're not going to trade," the owner's son said Wednesday, before rattling off the team's most-prized young pitchers. "Chamberlain, Hughes and even Kennedy. Not for a position player."

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I don't like the sound of that [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: ***yankees official offseason thread*****

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Melky has significantly more range.

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You sure about that?

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Not after reading the plus minus rankings from the jeter thread. To be fair Rowand wasn't rated high either, but not as low as Melky. I guess I should have said Melky has far more range "factor" than Aaron.

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Like I said in the other thread, I don't really like to put too much stock in any one defensive metric. But when a guy is ranked at the bottom of a list, he usually doesn't do so well in other metrics either.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:39 PM
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According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Yankees and Padres briefly discussed a trade that would have sent Jake Peavy to New York for Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:05 PM
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According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Yankees and Padres briefly discussed a trade that would have sent Jake Peavy to New York for Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera.

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Cashman: So, you like Hughes and Cabrera, right?

Towers: Absolutely.

Cashman: How's about trading me Peavy for them?

Towers: Ha ha ha ha *click*

yeah pretty brief.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:24 PM
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According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Yankees and Padres briefly discussed a trade that would have sent Jake Peavy to New York for Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera.

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wow. just wow. i think padres would have to see more from Hughes even consider this. they have peavy for 2 more years (via an option), and have time see if they can try for a title run or trade him at the deadline or off-season.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:50 PM
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a competent center fielder

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There are plenty of those available for mere cash. The Yanks are awash in cash.

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Can you name some better than melky?

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Andruw Jones, Torri Hunter, Mike Cameron, Aaron Rowand, Milton Bradley, and Kenny Lofton.

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melky's total salary over the next five years (age 25-29) is probably less than $15M.

Jones's next five years (age 31-35) probably costs $100M. Hunter's (age 33-38) probably cost $60M. Rowand's (age 30-34) probably cost ~$70M. Cameron (age 35-39) is ~$25-30M. I have no idea what Bradley (age 30-34) will make, but it's probably around $50M, and he is going to MISS THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT SEASON.

Kenny Lofton??? are you kidding.

i am not arguing that Melky is as good as those guys. I am not saying he is un-tradeable. But why would you want to get rid of a player like him? he's cheap. he's young. he may get better offensively. he probably won't decline defensively for the next 5 years. he can play 4th OF or get 120+ starts at CF/LF in a season. that's a ton of value, and flexibility for the roster. if melky is not traded, the yankees can walk away from almost any trade or FA negotiation for an OF (Jones/Rowand) and just stay put with Damon/Matsui/Abreu.
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