NL$50 deepish w/KK OOP

Chargers In 07 · #1 10-09-2007, 04:33 AM

Villain is ok running at 14.7/0/3.2 over 34 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($17.20)
UTG ($34.70)
UTG+1 ($34.30)
MP1 ($144.45)
MP2 ($9.25)
CO ($91.35)
Button ($45.55)
Hero ($104.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($5.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO raises to $13.5, Hero does something, but what?

AlexB182 · #2 10-09-2007, 06:49 AM

Wow, villain has to be really aggressive post flop to achieve an AF of 3.2 with a PFR of 0...
Normally that looks to me as if you just got set mined, but with those weird stats he has he could also be raising with an overpair like 99 or TT here IMO.
Problem is, calling does not achieve anything here, so its basically fold or raise though it sucks that you are both so deep. Yet, as folding just looks too weak here for me I guess I raise here.

Patchy · #3 10-09-2007, 08:37 AM

i prefere a call here and re-evaluate on turn. If u 4 bet on flop you will be playing for ur deep stack with just one pair

AlexB182 · #4 10-09-2007, 08:42 AM

How does it help here if you call and what do you want to reevaluate? Villain will bet again 95% of the time and if no miracle K falls off, situation will be exactly the same, right? Ok, maybe another K would provide a little help with a 2nd nut FD but that's pretty much it. Not to mention that villain could have been raising a big FD himself here like AQs.

threads13 · #5 10-09-2007, 09:00 AM

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How does it help here if you call and what do you want to reevaluate? Villain will bet again 95% of the time and if no miracle K falls off, situation will be exactly the same, right? Ok, maybe another K would provide a little help with a 2nd nut FD but that's pretty much it. Not to mention that villain could have been raising a big FD himself here like AQs.

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I agree. However, since the stacks are deep we do have the room to call here with the intention of folding to turn cards the complete the draw. We certainly aren't committed here. My plan would be to call with the intention of checking any non K turn and probably folding to a scare card.

WCGRider · #6 10-09-2007, 09:21 AM

if stacks were normal i call and crai on turn. In this spot i prob call and see what comes off on the turn.