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Old 11-16-2007, 05:46 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1640)
SB (t1200)
Hero (t2610)
UTG (t1470)
UTG+1 (t1490)
MP1 (t850)
MP2 (t1660)
MP3 (t3510)
CO (t1620)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t40</font>, MP1 calls t40.

River: (t130) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t420</font>, Hero
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

River looks like a value bet but I pay him off.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

I'd prefer to check/call the river but unless this is an outright bluff, you'll see the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here pretty often.

It's still early and you haven't invested that much, so I think letting it go is prudent.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

Readless I call. SS donks make all kinds of stupid raises, there's only one hand that beats you, 320 to win 650, this is +EV if you are right 33% of the time. From my experience, short stacks get kind've goofy and make some weird [censored] plays at times.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

I think as played you make the call on the river although you may find the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. If you do you'll still have a healthy stack for early in the tournament.

I think that the check\call line on the river would've been a better way to go. Pot was only T130 so villain probably only bets T100-130 and you get to showdown cheaper.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

yeah puke then call.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

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I'd prefer to check/call the river but unless this is an outright bluff, you'll see the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here pretty often.

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c/c river is my line too, and I call this raise as played
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

yeah i folded i just figured he cant know im not betting nuts here so he either has zero or the nuts and knowing how loose guys are in early going i really thought this was nuts like 80% of the time.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:17 PM
SengioKang SengioKang is offline
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

i'd put him on the 10 d if anything... KJ he was there and should have raised the turn. i think he might have raised as a semibluff on the turn too w/ the K dia...

i think u gotta pay this one off. it doesn't really hurt you to be wrong as youll still have 2/3's of the table covered.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: can 1 fold 2nd nut flush on river here?

In this spot I call here 100% of the time unless I'm up against somebody I know. He probably has a diamond...but he could have a lower card. You don't act like your on a draw. Call. I think if you do the math you'll find this is a clear call.
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