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Old 08-06-2005, 04:39 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Andy B\'s 4000th Post: The Book Thread to End All Book Threads

I haven't read Kammen. I actually saw it for the first time at a bookstore not too long ago. Recently, I've bought HOH2, Big Deal, Greenstein's book, and the Stuey Ungar book, so I wasn't exactly jonesin' to buy another poker book. Moneymaker's book is probably next on my list. The how-to books just aren't as much fun.

Anyway, it seems to me that Mason was less-than-complimentary of Kammen's book.
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:51 PM
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Hmmm...I guess I'll take his word for it. I've never seen it in my local Borders. Does anyone know of any websites where I can find out the content of this book?
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:12 PM
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some people have reviewed it on Amazon, here.
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:27 PM
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Yeah...I actually read those, but thanks. I wanted to see what 2+2ers had to say about this book. Andy B says Mason wasn't too fond of this book which makes me want to buy it less.
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:04 PM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Hi Andy:

I haven't read Kammen's book and have never commented on it. I was negative towards Ashley's book.

Best wishes,
Mason
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:11 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Hi Mason,

Sorry about that. I think I imposed someone else's book on Kammen's. You've been critical of so many books, it's hard to keep track sometimes. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I have apologized before for this error in this thread.

For anyone who's interested, I did comment at considerable length on Kammen's book here.

Mason, if you want a copy, I can send you mine. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I should have some comments on Play Poker Like the Pros tomorrow night unless John wants to go drinking or something.
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Old 08-06-2005, 11:41 PM
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No matter what form of poker you play, even if it's nine-card blind baseball,

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Hahaha, thats awesome
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:39 AM
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Any comments on Championship Stud by Stern, Johnson, and McEvoy?

Mason rated the Stud section a 1, but gave Razz and Stud8b a 7 rating. Since there is not much material on Razz and Stud8b, this book may be worth adding to the list.
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Old 08-07-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Andy B\'s 4000th Post: The Book Thread to End All Book Threads

See my commnets. Also the stud section is under rated. There are some detailed discussions of 7th St and pairing of opponents cards
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Old 08-07-2005, 04:39 PM
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I'm too tired to go into much detail but this is my experience. I was a crappy stud player. I bought 7CS4AP and I got a little better (playing 1/2). I decided even though stud was the game I had the most experience with I was stagnated so I played hold em and other games for a while. Then, I discovered Roy Wests' book and it's discussion of 3rd street decisions, tempered by TOP and a re-reading of 7CS4AP helped me get to a point of feeling comfortable in any stud game 10/20 and down. Roy is obviously weak/tight in spots but I'd say it's analagous to Winning Low Limit Hold Em by Lee Jones. That book has helped a lot of players move up thru small stakes games up to big hold em games, regardless of some weak/tight thinking and passive advice. Wests book just helped me to think about the right things on 3rd street.

That being said if I was going to lock someone in a room with a party account and one poker book and then bet on whether they'd be able to teach themselves to beat a stud game or any other game for that matter it would be The Theory of Poker. It is the only indespensable poker book.
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