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Old 10-23-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: NL100: KK in SB facing UTG Raiser & BB minraiser

I shoved this, then found myself wondering if this was the correct play. What RapidEvolution said occurred to me as well: BB is trying to sweeten the pot, not isolate. If I shove, does BB call with anything I beat? If I call, am I doing it to induce a shove? This is a really tough fold for me.

Anyway, for entertainment value, here's how the hand played out.


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP1: $111.55
MP2: $131.05
CO: $100
BTN: $98.50
Hero (SB): $150.45
BB: $138.90
UTG: $54.50
UTG+1: $78.70

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, 5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $23</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $54.50 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $150.45 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $115.90 and is All-In

Flop: ($332.30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($332.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($332.30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $332.30 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$138.90 NET)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $249.05 (+$110.15 NET)
UTG showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $80.25 (+$25.75 NET)


Hindsight is 20/20, of course, but I'm still trying to figure out if I could/should have played this any differently. Most seem to think it was fine.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: NL100: KK in SB facing UTG Raiser & BB minraiser

I don't understand how people can say that folding KK pf is impossible. In this situation I would fold. I think when it's heads up it can't ever be a fold. But I would fold this everytime and it would absolutely be a +EV in this situation.

And I didn't even see the results of this hand when I posted this.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: NL100: KK in SB facing UTG Raiser & BB minraiser

its not impossible to fold, its just not foldable just b/c some idiot we have 100 hands on minraised
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