AJo raised pot on J76 2-flush board

betgo · #1 10-03-2007, 01:21 PM

This is from the final table of the WCOOP $500 PNLE. I was not hero.

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t5000/t10000
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t144804
UTG+1: t724875
MP1: t228419
MP2: t155605
MP3: t152596
CO: t483926
Button: t205198
Hero: t534666
BB: t639911

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds, CO calls t10000 (pot was t15000), Button folds, Hero raises to t40000, BB folds, CO calls t30000 (pot was t60000).

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t90000, 2 players)
Hero bets t50000, CO raises to t240000, Hero ???

gobboboy · #2 10-03-2007, 01:25 PM

Don't like the raise preflop.

For now though.... I rewager.

...

Pot.

djk123 · #3 10-03-2007, 01:43 PM

preflop is fine imo. a co limp is weak most of the time. eeeeasy shove or pot on flop

Mench · #4 10-03-2007, 03:00 PM

get it in on the flop.

betgo · #5 10-03-2007, 08:10 PM

Hero folded. I was villain. Hero was Poker Stars pro Bill Chen. I couldn't believe when I saw the replay and he had AJ. I had T9s for a gutshot straight flush draw and was 48% versus hero's hand.

This is a flop that is likely to miss a lot of his hands. I kind of expected to be flipping versus xJ, JJ-AA, 66-77 and fold most other hands.

The hand right before that I had called on the button and made the same play with 2-pair on a drawier board and my opponent had pushed with TPGK. There hadn't been many limps, and he may have been suspicious that limp/call and pot the flop meant an overpair or set. Also, this is the final table, and he probably was scared to gamble.

Preflop seems OK. Against what I had, the complete is better, but I was more likely to have weaker hand and might not even call the raise. Kind of tricky situation if I limpreraise, as he doesn't know if I really have a hand that dominates his.

FGators · #6 10-03-2007, 08:27 PM

I think I'm opening that hand preflop there with those stack sizes much moreso than limp/calling.

Kala1928 · #7 10-03-2007, 08:29 PM

but its pot limit so you can limp/call sooo much because they can only raise the pot preflop!!

betgo · #8 10-03-2007, 08:32 PM

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I think I'm opening that hand preflop there with those stack sizes much moreso than limp/calling.

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Yeh, and I probably usually raise too. You got to remember this is pot limit, so there is much less to steal with a raise, and I know he can only raise OOP to 4xBB. If I raise, it is harder to call a reraise. I also wanted to keep the pot small, as I am not looking for big gambles with the final table payout structure. I played a very conservative game preflop throughout, and I think it worked pretty well with the pot limit structure.

djk123 · #9 10-03-2007, 08:44 PM

lmao Bill Chen sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssss

betgo · #10 10-03-2007, 09:25 PM

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lmao Bill Chen sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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This isn't NVG, but how did he become a Stars pro? Was he on TV? He shows an overall loss on Stars on OPR.