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Old 01-19-2007, 04:34 PM
Scotch78 Scotch78 is offline
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Default (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

Button is tight and SB is loose passive.

BB is 24/15/34/1.9/3.5/3 after 165 hands

UTG is 71/32/46/1.4/1.3/2.3 after 560 hands. He is capable of idiocy at times, but in general I would say that he just overvalues his hands.


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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB (Fly) calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Fly checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Fly calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (4.20 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Fly checks, Hero . . .

Scott
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Old 01-19-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

i dont even mind betting here, some spots i force myself to bet and hate it in these situations. u ll get called by plenty of worse hands, the T pairs up some str draws that u can get value from as well and i think bet folding is probably fairly safe here altho i could leak in these turn spots?

if called and the river is a blank 3 2 5 whatever valuebetting would be a tough decision i think
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

I think we have to bet, the question is what to do if raised . . . I guess most Aces we split with will just call here, and I don't think we get semi-bluffed enough in this spot to want to calldown, so b/f is probably best.
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

I may suck at poker, but how are you not betting TP in a protected pot on a drawy board?
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see why you wouldn't bet here.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

Against tricky players and in situations where I don't have complete trust in my A-pair, I check behind in this spot to avoid the c/r cause I don't think the hand can sustain being c/r. I also call the inevitable river bet.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

scotch-

stop over thinking it. I mean. You have two choices: One is to bet, one is to check here. Please convince me how betting isn't better by the widest possible margin
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see why you wouldn't bet here.

[/ QUOTE ]

*grunch*

Checking is not always such a bad idea, especially HU. Better when your hand can also improve to the nuts. With TP, you can check it through sometimes. See what the river brings. Villain was mostly likely going to fold or raise. Call the river bet. You'll save a bet when you've been outdrawn, and gain a bet when you induce.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

um, it's not a GRUNCH if you're quoting someone else.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: (PS $5/$10): Shoo Fly

I really need to learn why handing out free cards in position on a drawy board with TP beats b/c.
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